thinking of an RV upgrade

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We currently have a 2012 29bhs Cougar and beginning to think about a upgrage in quality and downgrade in size. Maybe a 18- 22' unit. Would like to have a set of bunk beds for the kids and a big enough fridge for the beer :-) . Will probably stay with a bumper pull type hitch as we enjoy loading the flatbed with toys.

Does anyone in the know have recommendations on an RV that still actually has quality control as part of the buisness plan??
 
For bumper pulls, airstream is the best in my opinion. I'm not sure about the rest. Seems like they slap them all together. We had a Holiday Rambler 5th wheel that was a lot nicer than others, but I'm not sure what they have in a bumper pull.
 
Both the Arctic Fox and AirStream are on the short list to have a look at. The plan is to actually take our time and make a better decision this go around.
 
Can't go wrong with AF or airstream. Airstreams are nice if you have the pocketbook for them..
 
We've stayed in a yurt, they're fun but not what we're looking for.

Maybe building my own class B like the Turtle Expo rig.... now I'm just dreaming but dang its a good dream.
 
We've been researching some hoping to move to a travel trailer next year.

Jayco, Starcraft, Arctic Fox, Outdoors RV, Winnebago towables and Livin Lite have all been the nicer ones.

If I had to chose now it'd be a Starcraft. 2 year warranty, good build quality and owned by Jayco.


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I just sold our Desert Fox (Northwoods) and have an Airstream, along with a 40' Country Coach. The DF was a decent product and pretty well insulated, but cabinet construction was not the best especially door alignment and drawer structures. I had to do a fair amount of rework over the years.

Airstreams are unfortunately a Thor product. That alone should sum up a lot. They do have a good chassis especially the suspension, and the shell will stay together. Clear coat and any decals OTOH, forget it! Will not last. And also remember that most of the components in RVs no matter the mfg in certain classes are all the same. Generally not real good stuff.

The Country Coach which is new to us, is quite the eye opener. There is a reason they and Foretravels are up there on the Class A pecking order.
 
Big foot is another brand that has a good reputation for quality and $$$$.
I agree with oilbrnr, the new Airstreams are not the same quality as the older ones. But the older ones sell for near the same price as the new ones.
 
I've always been intrigued at the idea of buying an old airstream and gutting it and making it how I want it. I think I could handle doing the floor and all the inside work. Keeping up the outside after restoration would be my biggest concern. I think if I had the time $10-15k in parts & materials (free labor) you could have a pretty trick airstream.
 
We purchased a new TT a month ago. We ended up with a Heartland NorthTrail 31BHDD. I have found the fit and finish to be excellent so far. Our shakedown cruise was last weekend and everything worked perfectly. I really wanted one of the smaller units as I really liked some of the floor plans. So far I would say take a look at the North Trail units if there are any in your size range. The floor plans are very well thought out.

Enjoy!
 
I've always been intrigued at the idea of buying an old airstream and gutting it and making it how I want it. I think I could handle doing the floor and all the inside work. Keeping up the outside after restoration would be my biggest concern. I think if I had the time $10-15k in parts & materials (free labor) you could have a pretty trick airstream.
Bare aluminum skin trailers are the easiest to maintain on the outside. We had a 1957 Mercury "Canned Ham" once I cleaned it up all it took was a hose a couple of times a year to keep it nice. Not shiny, but clean looking. The nice thing about aluminum is once it gets an oxide layer it never changes. Paint just gets crappier and crappier looking.

The floor plans on Airstreams are pretty well thought out, if you find one in not to bad condition you could just re-hab it and be done.
 
Bare aluminum skin trailers are the easiest to maintain on the outside. We had a 1957 Mercury "Canned Ham" once I cleaned it up all it took was a hose a couple of times a year to keep it nice. Not shiny, but clean looking. The nice thing about aluminum is once it gets an oxide layer it never changes. Paint just gets crappier and crappier looking.

The floor plans on Airstreams are pretty well thought out, if you find one in not to bad condition you could just re-hab it and be done.

Getting the clear coat and decals off and getting back to a uniform looking skin is pretty labor intensive. Some Airstream folks were going back to OK where AA had their jets polished back in the '90's. There are a few companies that still will polish them, then you don't clear coat 'em as it is a waste of time. The finishes are not as durable as they were back in the day. Thanks EPA.

Stay away from the 'Beatrice' years which IIRC were early seventies to mid eighties. Also realize that some had asbestos floor tiles and foam insulation that emitted formaldehyde like the '67 Land Yacht that I spent many a trip in back when I was a young pup. In '73 we took it down to Mazatlan and then by ferry across to Cabo and back up to AZ. Even though I was only 5 I still remember good portions of that trip!

The 2000 28' Excella that my Dad and I went back to the factory to pick up, is what I have now, and need to sell. They do tow great, and in general have pretty good fit and finish. The factory in OH was a joke. How those poor folks built anything semi decent is a mystery. The interior now is pretty much like new, but the outside looks like $hit. 7000' for 14 years = clear coat nightmare.

There is NO WAY I'd undertake rebuilding one. Just too much crap to deal with. Oh, forgot many of the '60-'70 year models had aluminum AC wiring too. Bad news. Also, most floor plans don't lend themselves to families unless there is an only child. Like myself.

As stated though, they do hold their value once the initial depreciation happens.

We purchased a new TT a month ago. We ended up with a Heartland NorthTrail 31BHDD. I have found the fit and finish to be excellent so far. Our shakedown cruise was last weekend and everything worked perfectly. I really wanted one of the smaller units as I really liked some of the floor plans. So far I would say take a look at the North Trail units if there are any in your size range. The floor plans are very well thought out.

Enjoy!

FR just mentally prep yourself for things that will need to be addressed as you use the trailer and get it back to the dealer to fix ASAP under warranty. It is not a matter of 'if' you'll have issues, it is just when. Sad but true, even on high end coaches there are always things that need to be addressed or tweaked. I have never heard of that brand, and am curious as to whom the parent company is. Most of the TT's out there are mfg. by a handful of companies after the 2008 fallout. And personally, I wouldn't give any of them a nod to any sort of true quality construction or QC. I know that sounds harsh, but in the RV industry it is true and unfortunate.

I know that the OP is looking for a bumper pull, but having had all sorts of RV's over the years, a quality early to mid 2000's DP Class A is really, really enjoyable. With room for the kids and all the assorted stuff and now that we can tow the 80 behind, we're set for wherever we'd like to go. MPG no different than the DMax and Desert Fox TH combo that it replaced. i.e. 10-12

The main thing is get something that will fit the bill for now, and is within the range of what your truck can tow. Then get out there and use it while you can!
 
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