My brother is planning on coming out from Minnesota for Thanksgiving and wants go wheeling. I am thinking of either going to Buena Vista to watch buggies run Carnage and then running Chinamans or going to Penrose and running down Liberty and watching buggies run Patriot. It may be hard to keep my 60 out of these trails but since it will hopefully be the maiden trip on the 14 bolt rear I don't know if Carnage or Partriot would be the best place to test it. At this point I hope to see people planning trips to run one of these trails and either going on Friday or Saturday depending on which day would be the better show. Let me know if you are interested in a trip like this and we can plan a group thing.