Question on faster trails with a 100

[VSPro9]

Hey yall,

Currently have a gx470 with a basic Ironman FCP lift and Perry bumps. My home state of Michigan has lots of fast sandy trails. I'll regularly cruise these at 45-55. Lots of chatter smaller whoops etc. I've been wanting to get into a 100 series for the larger size and heavier duty axles, but i don't want to slow down on the trails.

I don't know much about the torsion beam suspension, can it handle fast choppy trails at higher speeds?

 

[hickuptruck]

You probably go to Silver Lake and wheel aronud there then right? Yeah 100 series isn't good for the faster speed kind of stuff, but it excels at overloading the rig with lots of gear. The torsion bar suspension has like 7 inches of wheel travel which is less than a Corolla. The lack of wheel travel doesn't make the 100 series a good contender for travelling 50mph on trails. Sure you can buy Kings and such but you are still limited to wheel travel. The rear suspension has a little more wheel travel than a stock 80 series however. I think you'd be much happier with a 2nd gen Tundra or a 200 series.

 

[VSPro9]

You probably go to Silver Lake and wheel aronud there then right? Yeah 100 series isn't good for the faster speed kind of stuff, but it excels at overloading the rig with lots of gear. The torsion bar suspension has like 7 inches of wheel travel which is less than a Corolla. The lack of wheel travel doesn't make the 100 series a good contender for travelling 50mph on trails. Sure you can buy Kings and such but you are still limited to wheel travel. The rear suspension has a little more wheel travel than a stock 80 series however. I think you'd be much happier with a 2nd gen Tundra or a 200 series.

I've given up trying to go fast at silver, the whoops are massive and i seem to break stuff often out there. Appreciate the advice!

 

[x8o8drifter]

Hey yall,

Currently have a gx470 with a basic Ironman FCP lift and Perry bumps. My home state of Michigan has lots of fast sandy trails. I'll regularly cruise these at 45-55. Lots of chatter smaller whoops etc. I've been wanting to get into a 100 series for the larger size and heavier duty axles, but i don't want to slow down on the trails.

I don't know much about the torsion beam suspension, can it handle fast choppy trails at higher speeds?

Not sure if this helps.
They're doing around 45.
Edit: The only mod his TLC has are the tires. Just General GRaber ATs Load Range E.

 

[excessive]

i think the concept of torsion suspense is that the shockwave from teh suspension comrpession is not sent up into the chassis like it is with a coilover, so in theory the 100 should be far superior to the coilspring suspension of the Gx

 

[Sandroad]

I’ve not been in a GX, so I can’t compare, but I have driven an ‘04 on hundreds of miles of U.P. forest roads, both loaded and light. My speeds were limited more by my wife and dogs than the vehicle. However, the 100 platform is not a high speed backroads bomber with stock suspension and tires. If you want to go 50mph on those forest roads, you’ll want a modded 100 or something with a lot more suspension travel and shock control. My 200 is limited by the speeds I’m comfortable with. If you need to see a 200 in action in the stock full class of the Baja 1000, check out the ride at Canguro Racing.

The Ride

2010 200 Series Toyota Land Cruiser: Monica Drivetrain: Engine Toyota 3UR-FE 5.7 liter V8 producing 383 HP @ 5,600 RPM and 403 ft. lbs. torque @ 3,600 RPM Exhaust Dual Flowmaster high flow mufflers…

www.canguroracing.com

 

[VSPro9]

I’ve not been in a GX, so I can’t compare, but I have driven an ‘04 on hundreds of miles of U.P. forest roads, both loaded and light. My speeds were limited more by my wife and dogs than the vehicle. However, the 100 platform is not a high speed backroads bomber with stock suspension and tires. If you want to go 50mph on those forest roads, you’ll want a modded 100 or something with a lot more suspension travel and shock control. My 200 is limited by the speeds I’m comfortable with. If you need to see a 200 in action in the stock full class of the Baja 1000, check out the ride at Canguro Racing.

The Ride

2010 200 Series Toyota Land Cruiser: Monica Drivetrain: Engine Toyota 3UR-FE 5.7 liter V8 producing 383 HP @ 5,600 RPM and 403 ft. lbs. torque @ 3,600 RPM Exhaust Dual Flowmaster high flow mufflers…

www.canguroracing.com

I'd most likely upgrade to a full Ironman kit, guess I'll dig into that.

 

[TahoeZ]

Mine will handle whatever speed I’m comfortable driving. Kings are where it’s at if you want to drive fast off-road.

 

[whitec13]

I’ve got FOX 2.0 front and remote resi rears, and play around at our cabin in Irons MI on forest roads a lot. They seem to handle bumps great at higher speeds, but my bump stops however, do not. I’ve got plans to change them out. But in reality, I’m only ever doing like 30 while on trails, due to a blast I took from misjudging how deep a rut was while doing 40-45 and my wife was not happy at the jar it gave us. Now that my daughter is in the picture, we are slow rolling trails now anyway. When I want to cut loose a bit more, I get out our SXS.

 

[VSPro9]

I’ve got FOX 2.0 front and remote resi rears, and play around at our cabin in Irons MI on forest roads a lot. They seem to handle bumps great at higher speeds, but my bump stops however, do not. I’ve got plans to change them out. But in reality, I’m only ever doing like 30 while on trails, due to a blast I took from misjudging how deep a rut was while doing 40-45 and my wife was not happy at the jar it gave us. Now that my daughter is in the picture, we are slow rolling trails now anyway. When I want to cut loose a bit more, I get out our SXS.

Exactly what i was hoping to hear! (And pick up some perry parts bumps, they're a game changer )

 

[VSPro9]

Mine will handle whatever speed I’m comfortable driving. Kings are where it’s at if you want to drive fast off-road.

Good to hear. I need to balance affordability and performance. The foam cell pros have been excellent for my style of driving so I'll probably use them again. I don't get to wind it out for miles and miles and miles, usually it's a mile or two of fast section followed by slower stuff.

 

[Kofoed]

I run Icon reservoir shocks on the front (aka stage 3), with SPC control arms and OME torsion bars. It gives me more travel, and the shocks have the bump zone, where damping rates increases 20% over the last inch of compression. With factory factory pastic bumper I would sail over wash board, chop and moderate whoops way better than factory (desert environs). I got a heavy Slee front bumper which you can feel taxing the suspension. I would do it again, minus the heavy steel front bumper. Keep the vehicle light.

 

[silver02accord]

I’ve got FOX 2.0 front and remote resi rears, and play around at our cabin in Irons MI on forest roads a lot. They seem to handle bumps great at higher speeds, but my bump stops however, do not. I’ve got plans to change them out. But in reality, I’m only ever doing like 30 while on trails, due to a blast I took from misjudging how deep a rut was while doing 40-45 and my wife was not happy at the jar it gave us. Now that my daughter is in the picture, we are slow rolling trails now anyway. When I want to cut loose a bit more, I get out our SXS.

not your fault-those holes come out of no where!

 

[TCEd]

Hey yall,

Currently have a gx470 with a basic Ironman FCP lift and Perry bumps. My home state of Michigan has lots of fast sandy trails. I'll regularly cruise these at 45-55. Lots of chatter smaller whoops etc. I've been wanting to get into a 100 series for the larger size and heavier duty axles, but i don't want to slow down on the trails.

I don't know much about the torsion beam suspension, can it handle fast choppy trails at higher speeds?

Sometimes those whoops will set you up for the rear end magically wanting to come around and off you go into the trees.