Previously ran, used cheap end inductive timing gun and now won't run...
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NeverGiveUpYota
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I don't have a charger. I know my neighbor does but I picked up my son last night and am not back till late and he's gone very early AM. I'll see about getting it from him tonight. I do have a GM130 that I had planned to swap in but kept putting it off since I had her up and running this last week. Cables are rewired to new connections a few months back. I can see some corrosion on the negative edges of wire I can see on either side of the ring I crimped. I'll give it a good scrub with baking soda.
I will say that while I was futzing around with her and was on the ph with a Napa guy down the road he asked if my carb was getting fuel. He offered to bring me a can of starter fluid but I declined. So when he asked it did made me look.... with all the attempts to start and pumping the gas "should" my reservoir have fuel visible in the sight window? It appeared bone dry which has not been the case all week. If I can get out there and futz again I will check that again. Weather is cold and sunny today but my son is with me which makes deducing things tricky.
Thanks guys, I'll relay back as I find things. I really appreciate the assistance. I'm mostly alone in this endeavor (aside from a few states away I can text) and have primarily leaned on mud as I have done one thing after another.
I will say that while I was futzing around with her and was on the ph with a Napa guy down the road he asked if my carb was getting fuel. He offered to bring me a can of starter fluid but I declined. So when he asked it did made me look.... with all the attempts to start and pumping the gas "should" my reservoir have fuel visible in the sight window? It appeared bone dry which has not been the case all week. If I can get out there and futz again I will check that again. Weather is cold and sunny today but my son is with me which makes deducing things tricky.
Thanks guys, I'll relay back as I find things. I really appreciate the assistance. I'm mostly alone in this endeavor (aside from a few states away I can text) and have primarily leaned on mud as I have done one thing after another.
LAMBCRUSHER
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ahh, put the car down for a bit and pick up that boy; you'll get this worked out. 
gregnash
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If the truck has been sitting for a bit then you will not have fuel in the bowl I believe that over time it evaporates off. If you have been priming the pump and trying to get fuel in to it and it is not working then you have a different issue.
If you get a chance, run the battery down to NAPA or one of the other places and have them take a look at it, while your at it you might as well take the ALT off and have them bench test it as well.
If you get a chance, run the battery down to NAPA or one of the other places and have them take a look at it, while your at it you might as well take the ALT off and have them bench test it as well.
NeverGiveUpYota
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Truck "had" been sitting for almost two months but I have been driving it the last week. On Sat noted my fuel pump spitting much from the weep hole so I put a new pump in and new soft lines. This AM a friend suggested I try disconnecting the fuel line from the pump into a bottle and start her to see if fuel is being pumped. Maybe I jogged off a chunk of grim into one of the lines and its blocked or sucking air.
Kiddo (and me) is in need of a hike. Will see about the fuel line first then if I am getting fuel, if I have time I'll pull the battery and alt while he naps later. Multi-tasking at its best.
cruisedeisel
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Ok, how did this turn into a "no fuel problem?" I thought you have a truck that's not turning over? Get it to turn over, then figuere out fuel problems if it doesn't just fire up.
cruisedeisel
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You need a volt meter and start from a good battery and work your way to the fusible link, ignition, solenoid, then your starter. I think igot that right, lol.
NeverGiveUpYota
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I just thought that if fuel isn't getting to carb then that would be another factor to it not turning over. Be gentle please... amateur newbie here.
Fuel is not a factor for the motor turning over. That is a wiring or battery issue.
Check and see if you are getting voltage to the starter and the starting circuit (small wire on the starter) when you try to start it.
It's best to address one thing at a time. That way, you can make sure all of your ducks are in a row. Tackling multiple issues at once easily lets things get confused.
Check and see if you are getting voltage to the starter and the starting circuit (small wire on the starter) when you try to start it.
It's best to address one thing at a time. That way, you can make sure all of your ducks are in a row. Tackling multiple issues at once easily lets things get confused.
NeverGiveUpYota
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Ignition/ignitor/coil testing. I was reading threads on checking it. One pix from the fsm shows trying it with a "dry battery"... that stumps me a tad. I'd be really appreciative of a real person picture and explanation. I was in my head this AM thinking about the systems and how each play in the start up of an engine so I appreciate the listing of each out. Napa guy said I could test the starter with my jumper cables and my other car but the way he explained it made me cringe some. Electrical stuff makes me a tad nervous. ..
Just check for voltage to the starter and the starting circuit. If it is not turning over (meaning the motor is not spinning at all, not just unable to "start") and you have power to the starter, then you can start thinking that the starter is bad.
cruisedeisel
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You don't need us, you need a chilton manual. Everybody blabering on doesn't help much. Its all in the book. The book doesn't lie, we do.
NeverGiveUpYota
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Too funny. So your saying everyone including yourself are lying and are talking out of your ...? I had a Haynes but I returned it because at some point it was changed from previous copies and the layout and such stank. But really I don't agree, I think the experience that you all have is fundamental. Its how I go about testing each system that throws me. I am very new to the use of a voltmeter and tho some things I understand, some just goes over my head. I have the emissions control fsm next to me flipped open now.
gregnash
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Don't worry F you are not the only one... I consider myself a fairly intelligent individual and that I can pick up on things pretty quickly. Electrical is something that really escapes me as it does not seem to follow logical process (at least not that has been explained to me). Ah the pits and downfalls of being a Virgo AND a PM/Analyst! I am looking at wiring in some butt warmers when I get my seats redone... however I am hesitant because I don't understand on where to wire in the switched power for the ACC so that the buggers don't run all the time!
You aren't alone!
CaptClose
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Have you checked the pressure in your tires? Low tire pressure can cause an electric malfunction.
cruisedeisel
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arsehole ^^^^
NeverGiveUpYota
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I second that fabulous comment. ^^^
NeverGiveUpYota
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So I have the battery on a trickle charger. It lite up orange/yellow right off so that means per my neighbor, that the battery is low. He also hooked me up with an old school Milton battery tester too.
I will say I removed the top of the air cleaner and pulled on the plunger to the carb and no gas. I removed the line going up to the hard line to the carb and stuck the soft section into a bottle and cranked the engine and no gas. So I'll pull the pump I installed per FSM and test it best I can in some water.
Just so odd because prior to all I wrote in my first post, I was running the truck for two days with that new pump and I noticed no issues, other than my tach acting fluey.
I will say I removed the top of the air cleaner and pulled on the plunger to the carb and no gas. I removed the line going up to the hard line to the carb and stuck the soft section into a bottle and cranked the engine and no gas. So I'll pull the pump I installed per FSM and test it best I can in some water.
Just so odd because prior to all I wrote in my first post, I was running the truck for two days with that new pump and I noticed no issues, other than my tach acting fluey.
NeverGiveUpYota
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Same as you on the switched power for ACC... similar to sticking my voltmeter prongs in the Alt plug to determine which is the 12... lol, Just a tad nerved up over doing it. As I was talking to Jim K today he explained how to get spark and I am totally enlightened now... If only my 3.5yo could pay attention long enough and turn the key...
LAMBCRUSHER
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