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slander

slander

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So the SAS itch in my crotch will not go away and I plan to unload my rear axle on Joe and pick up Lc nuts fj60 axles hopefully this weekend. I need a place to organize my thoughts and ask dumb questions with a lot of off topic gay banter, so I'll make a thread. The plan is to build the axles this summer and stock pile some parts and swap this truck this winter. The plan is:

Flipped fj 60 front
It will probably stay open for a bit until I can get some rcvs. I will be re using my tundra brakes on it as well.

Chop the entire front of the frame off since it will be less work in the long run than plating this rusty POS and allow me to keep it low and not have to notch s*** for steering and axle clearence.

Shackles forward with waggy leafs with a leaf added to them for no lift.

37s some day, but it may be low enough to shakedown with my 33s. Hopefully.one of you guys with 37" pbr's will be sick of them by next spring....

F150 steering box because hydro assist looks like a PITA, only problem is the box is huge and forward swing which may get on the way..... Or may help...

So what are my steering options? Supposidly the axle already has histeer arms, and john is telling me to go low steer...

The legendary ZUK is doing the exact same swap on his taco, lots of cool tech in here:
http://www.yotatech.com/f152/2001-tacoma-sas-costs-t100-oilpan-considerations-283930/index6.html

What am I missing besides coilovers, air bumps, links and a tube frame?
 
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Hydro is easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
Links alleviate the axle wrap problem straight away without any silliness in between. They will also allow you to not need to replace any of the frame in front.
need to cut some holes in the hood for the coil overs.

exo-cage so all the kids and hillrods want to be your bestest friends.
 
slander said:
So the SAS itch in my crotch will not go away and I plan to unload my rear axle on Joe and pick up Lc nuts fj60 axles hopefully this weekend. I need a place to organize my thoughts and ask dumb questions with a lot of off topic gay banter, so I'll make a thread. The plan is to build the axles this summer and stock pile some parts and swap this truck this winter. The plan is:

Flipped fj 60 front
It will probably stay open for a bit until I can get some rcvs. I will be re using my tundra brakes on it as well.

Why flipped? Are you keeping the lefty???

Chop the entire front of the frame off since it will be less work in the long run than plating this rusty POS and allow me to keep it low and not have to notch **** for steering and ale clearence.

Shackles forward with waggy leafs with a leaf added to them for no lift.

37s some day, but it may be low enough to shakedown with my 33s. Hopefully.one of you guys with 37" pbr's will be sick of them by next spring....

F150 steering box because hydro assist looks like a PITA, only problem is the box is huge and forward swing which may get on the way..... Or may help...

Assist isn't that bad, but if there is a box out there that can turn like assist, do it! If I had to do it again I would look into forward swing. you can mount the box almost above the axle (slightly forward) and that has many advantages! Or, full hydro has come a long way in the past couple years.

So what are my steering options? Supposidly the axle already has histeer arms, and john is telling me to go low steer...

If you are going to make your own frame you may be able to do highsteer and stay low... just watch the oil pan.

The legendary ZUK is doing the exact same swap on his taco, lots of cool tech in here:
http://www.yotatech.com/f152/2001-tacoma-sas-costs-t100-oilpan-considerations-283930/index6.html

What am I missing besides coilovers, air bumps, links and a tube frame?
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I'm thinking about keeping the lefty because i priced out a gear drive case built by me with all the same parts and i about s*** myself. I don't want to sell the lefty and break almost even, or only make a few hundred bucks on the deal. Once we start talking about keeping my current parts and building a lefty with the parts cannibalized from a stock gear drive donor case, then the cost benefit does not make sense in my head. The work to flip a fj60 axle looks to be a day worth of work and ill probibly have to rotate the knuckles anyway to get some decent caster numbers, so why not just flip it and be done with it.... that's my logic at least.

Supposedly the f150 boxes can turn 37s easily without needing hydro assist and can be found relatively cheaply once you add up the parts needed for hydro assist and an IFS box, unless the IFS box and hydro parts fall in my lap for just about free.

I'm at the edge of my seat waiting for your end of year review of the trunnion eliminators, those may find a way into the build if they get a good review!

Does anyone have any IFS hubs they are willing to part with?
 
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Gumby said:
Hydro is easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
Links alleviate the axle wrap problem straight away without any silliness in between. They will also allow you to not need to replace any of the frame in front.
need to cut some holes in the hood for the coil overs.

exo-cage so all the kids and hillrods want to be your bestest friends.
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I'm barely smart enough to understand leaf suspensions, not even going to try to figure out links that means math and junk.
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The frame chopping craze with Tacoma's originated with the link guys to keep their stuff low, i would be one of the elite few leaf sprung SAS guys doing that.

After watching evrey hilliblly in Kentucky intercept John at the gas station to talk his ear off about the exo cage, i decided that's not for me LOL!!!
 
slander said:
I'm thinking about keeping the lefty because i priced out a gear drive case built by me with all the same parts and i about **** myself. I don't want to sell the lefty and break almost even, or only make a few hundred bucks on the deal. Once we start talking about keeping my current parts and building a lefty with the parts cannibalized from a stock gear drive donor case, then the cost benefit does not make sense in my head. The work to flip a fj60 axle looks to be a day worth of work and ill probibly have to rotate the knuckles anyway to get some decent caster numbers, so why not just flip it and be done with it.... that's my logic at least.

Supposedly the f150 boxes can turn 37s easily without needing hydro assist and can be found relatively cheaply once you add up the parts needed for hydro assist and an IFS box, unless the IFS box and hydro parts fall in my lap for just about free.

I'm at the edge of my seat waiting for your end of year review of the trunnion eliminators, those may find a way into the build if they get a good review!

Does anyone have any IFS hubs they are willing to part with?
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I should have the back half of a gear drive case you could have. All lefty parts are just stock parts in a machined case on the wrong side, right? It's literally in my scrap bin if you want it
 
I have a back half of a case so parts aren't an issue, its part me being lazy and not wanting to build a new case and rebuild the lefty and go through the hassle of selling it. I would need to get a minimum of 2k for it to make it worth my time. I may post it for sale for 2500 firm this winter and if i don't get any bites I don't really lose anything. The other part is malin seems to be out of everything these days, so getting a new set of 4.7 gears and outputs may be a pain.
 
I forgot I had eliminators.... I suppose that is as good of an endorsement as there is...

I don't see why you don't just take all the lefty parts out, substitute righty parts and sell the lefty parts.... That should be a piece of cake. If you are too lazy to do that you are under estimating a 60 housing flip IMO. I think you will have to move the exhaust to the other side with a righty though.... I did at least, but I think my frame is narrower.....

I wouldn't worry too much about caster. Having gone around the block with caster, Im betting stock 60 axle should be fine. If you want to manipulate caster you can do it at the spring shackle/spring mount.
 
I'm sure I'll change my mind on the lefty, but right now the axle flip looks appealing. The exhaust may or may not be a problem, definitely not flipping that to the left side at the header, I would just snake it around the tcase on the right side. If I can get my asking price for the lefty, that bastard will be gone for sure, in just not too optomistic on that. The crowd that will buy the lefty want one that's fully built and ready to bolt in, so just selling the adapter may not be the ticket.

So then options are spend a few days messing around with transfer cases or spend a few says screwing up an axle flip.
 
I fit would take you a few days to put the lefty back to the righty, then using cross multiplication....it might take you a few weeks to do a flip. Then you would have a diff on the wrong side....
 
Fwiw my truck has like 30k on its eliminators and they still looked perfect when I tore down the knuckles earlier this year.

Couldn't you flip back to a right drop with the back half of the case you have now and stuff it with all the 30 spline stuff. Then throw the stock stuff in the lefty back half and turn up a top shift case for cheap to complete it and sell it as a bolt in unit to make it more appealing?
 
good point John....

I'm sure ill flip flop 100 more times.. Its more mental i think, it seems like im fxxxing with those damn cases evrey 2 yrs or so and im sick of it. I can build a transfer case in my sleep, it just doesn't mean i want to. Im having flashbacks to when i first built it and a two day project turned into a month because marlins shipping department bites the big one.

Snowboard instructor: to pull the lefty adapter off the back and my 30spline stuff out, everything has to get get torn down except for the input shaft of the case and rebuilt again, not hard just a PITA. So i may just post the whole thing for sale when the time comes, and if no mall crawlers want to buy it then ill flip that 60.
 
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Who is Colin?
 
I think thats your new name....
 
Be careful g-hoff, if you anger Colin he may force you to snow board....
 
4rnr said:
Who is Colin?
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Fixed! I used to party with a Colin in college, he used to get drunk and angerly try to convince people to snowboard, weird coincidence....
 
You have a daily driver now, I would just rebuild the t-cases and have the diff on the proper side.
 
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