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romey

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hi guys,
hope you don't mind me asking here, this is prolly the busiest canadian section on mud. just wondering what your thoughts are on this inverter? only cuz i have a gift certificate at crappy tire and i can't think of anything else to buy at the moment. we're actually planning a trip to vancouver in may for a conference, and camping along the way.

im thinkin about the 600 amp one with 2 plugs, flashlight, booster cables, and compressor all in one. the smaller one has one plug and cables, the one bigger than this has a cheapo radio and no compressor, so i figure the best bang for my buck would be this one. are they any good, decent? i'll use it to use the laptop in the cruiser, charge cell phone/walkies, and have power in the tent if needed... and you can get solar panels to charge it too, so that's usefull.

whaddya think? any input is greatly appreciated. don't think i'll be modding the inside with power any time soon, and all i've seen besides motomaster are the noma ones, but not as versatile...

cheers.

Romey

(btw, i'll be buggin yalls again later for some good spots to camp and see the sights, and it'd be nice if could meet some mudders too :D)
 
I am not sure of the model you are talking about, regardless, keep in mind these facts: you get what you pay for, even on their 50% off sales they still make money so it gives you an idea of what it's really worth. If you are sing if for very minor loads then it will likely not catch fire. I would look at it from the point of view of if you have nothing better to buy there and you don't care if it dies in 6 months then get it. Otherwise, Crappy tire does carry Fiskars axes which are great! and worth the money. My friend bought their 110V to 12V little boosters that has a light, jumper cables, air compressor and something else, the air compressor is useless, the light burned out and the booster cables usually work for minor load things (this is after using it twice).
 
thanks fellas. it's actually a 12V system, with a 24V start, so it should plug in fine, actually it does, got my ipod in. yeah, wasn't sure about the quality, but just remembered that my buddy had one last may 24 camping with one outlet, jumper, and he had it hooked up to another 12V battery, that he used to run his DJ equipment and i think it was fine...hmm. prolly made in china too... so if anything, i should at least wait for a sale if i grab it.

found it, Canadian Tire Motomaster Motomaster Eliminator 600A PowerBox : Questions, Answers, How To, FAQs, Tips, Advice, Answers, Buying Guide

got reviews too... looks like 3/4 years lifespan, AC adapter issues and such...
 
They don't call it ****py Tire for nothing. Buy oil with the gift certificate. Don't waste your money on cheap tools. They only end up in landfills long before they should. My two cents.
 
good point. and it ain't cheap either, 169 for this, 199 for the 800amp, and 139 for the 300amp one. hmm, gonna go for another look, can't go wrong with real tools either...or just whatever camping gear i might find usefull for this trip... :cool:
 
I would get the highest amperage inverter that your gift cert. can handle. Forget about the comp, flashlight, etc... Maybe something in the 1200-1700W range
Maybe something like this:
Canadian Tire
These are Xantrex, not the worst brand out there.
 
yeah, was thinkin about those too, but i think it's too much juice than what i'd ever need it for (won't be running a TV or microwave) don't care much for the flashlight, but more for battery power and boosting, the comp is just a practical bonus.. but guess what? Xantrex makes the motomaster inverters. guess we'll see...
thanks for the input fellas!
 
I have a 1000 watt Xantrax plain inverter. It does what you need it to. Thinki you may want to one day run an electric drill, or in my case connect it to my tent trailer to run the inside power.

Those booster packs probably work fine for small cars to get them started. But I feel your glow cycle alone will drain it to nothing. The battery isn't big enough in them to make the 1hd-t start.

Go with a plain inverter and an extension cord.
 
yeah, i was wonderin about the boost capability for the HDT BB... speakin of which, if this where to need a boost, you'd do what? plug the cables to one of the batteries in parallel? like a reg boost on a 12V system? essentially, just helping one battery and cumulatively the 24 volt start would come from one "weak" one and the other "assisted"....??

better yet, how do you boost an HDJ81 from a regular 12V vehicle? theoretically, 2 vehicles, one for each batt, same standard procedure would work?

(if it boiled down to just grabbing an inverter, then i'll prolly just pass, don't think i'll need a pure inverter for appliances for now at least. i was drawn by the versatility of it...but if it was the cranking amps i'd be concerned with, then i should prolly just grab the next one up with 800amps..)
 
romey said:
better yet, how do you boost an HDJ81 from a regular 12V vehicle? theoretically, 2 vehicles, one for each batt, same standard procedure would work?
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Yes, you can boost an HDJ81 from one regular 12V vehicle using standard procedures.

The batteries on mine were dead when I went to pick it up at the dock. A 15-20 minute boost from wife's Volvo @ 2000 RPM charged both (they are normally in parallel) Cruiser batteries enough for glowing and starting. The 12V Volvo battery in good shape was not able to turn the HDJ81 starter on its own.
 
romey said:
yeah, i was wonderin about the boost capability for the HDT BB... speakin of which, if this where to need a boost, you'd do what? plug the cables to one of the batteries in parallel? like a reg boost on a 12V system? essentially, just helping one battery and cumulatively the 24 volt start would come from one "weak" one and the other "assisted"....??

better yet, how do you boost an HDJ81 from a regular 12V vehicle? theoretically, 2 vehicles, one for each batt, same standard procedure would work?

(if it boiled down to just grabbing an inverter, then i'll prolly just pass, don't think i'll need a pure inverter for appliances for now at least. i was drawn by the versatility of it...but if it was the cranking amps i'd be concerned with, then i should prolly just grab the next one up with 800amps..)
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I measure the voltage in my batteries to determine which one is low and hook jumper cables up on that battery from the 12v vehicle doing the jumping. If both batteries are down, I put a jump pack on one side and use the jumper cables attached to a 12v vehicle on the other battery.
 
cool, so essentially a double boost, one battery: from a jump/booster pack -> black/black and red/red AND the other battery: from a vehicle -> red/red and black/ground in the engine....and start. OR just one sided with either booster pack or vehicle boost. makes sense. (lol, or TWO booster packs). thanks for the tip on checkin for the weaker battery Kim! . . . and charge the battery for a few minutes from another vehicle before starting @ rev's..thanks wussyup!
 
wussyPup said:
Yes, you can boost an HDJ81 from one regular 12V vehicle using standard procedures.

The batteries on mine were dead when I went to pick it up at the dock. A 15-20 minute boost from wife's Volvo @ 2000 RPM charged both (they are normally in parallel) Cruiser batteries enough for glowing and starting. The 12V Volvo battery in good shape was not able to turn the HDJ81 starter on its own.
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hmm, did you mean in "series" to allow 24 volts right? parallel would keep it in 12Volts... so the idea is to parallel boost one of the 2 batteries (or both if you had the luxury).
 
wussyPup said:
The batteries on mine were dead when I went to pick it up at the dock. A 15-20 minute boost from wife's Volvo @ 2000 RPM charged both (they are normally in parallel) Cruiser batteries enough for glowing and starting.
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romey said:
hmm, did you mean in "series" to allow 24 volts right? parallel would keep it in 12Volts... so the idea is to parallel boost one of the 2 batteries (or both if you had the luxury).
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Cruiser ignition switched to Off/Acc/Run - The Cruiser batteries are in parallel providing 12V so they both charge from the alternator if running, and both charge if one is connected to another power source like my wife's Volvo

Cruiser ignition switched to Start - The passenger side battery is removed from the parallel circuit. Now the driver side battery provides power to all 12V circuits like lights and radio (if connected to another vehicle, this battery is operating in parallel with it providing 12V). And, both Cruiser batteries are connected in parallel for the 24V starter circuit.
 
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