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Hey does marlin crawler have a profile on here, if so what is his nickname. I have a 86 fj60 with a transmission with a 2nd gear synchro gone. I can get it into all the gears but puttin it in gear it'll grind. Sometimes will pop out of second, mostly will stay in. Biggest problem is the down shifting. I'm wonderin what I have to do to get it rebuilt. Do I need a whole core and such from a guy like Marlin, or can I rip it open and fix it myself with out loosed a thousand little parts and springs. With just a transmission rebuild kit. And I actually just flipped back to his page and saw that his rebuild kit includes syncrows. How hard are those to replace i.e. special tools, thousand of springs going everywhere? Thanks for the help.
 
call him his phone # is 559-25-crawl im sure he or one of his staff will be happy to ansewer any of your questions, the guy is a book of knowledge, one person said if you asked him what time it was he would show you how to build a watch. :)
 
Cruiserparts.net has used tranny's for $250 w/free shipping. You can probably find them cheaper on ebay, or other. Consensus on the 60 board is that rebuilding a 4 speed isn't worth it, as so many used ones are available for cheap.
 
Manual transmissions are easy to rebuild. There just aren't that many pieces in there. Make sure you have a detailed service manual, preferably with pictures.

But I agree, the cost of a rebuild kit might be more than the cost of a perfectly fine used tranny. And there may be a surprise or two that a standard kit doesn't cover.
 
Hey Ski Have you bought a tranny from cruiser parts before? Or ordered somethin else from him, just wonderin warranty type stuff and quality. I'm figurin he's not sendin out junk or anything but always good to get a 3rd party's opinion.

Theo how hard is it to replace the syncrows? How long would it take a novice with a buddy's help to get thru it? I know that's kinda like askin how long would it take to walk around the world. And if you have rebuilt a tranny before did you take pics by chance, kinda curious to see what it looks like inside. Thanks guys
 
I bought a used 3 speed from cruiserparts.net. I was rebuilding mine and needed better gears. It was cheaper to rob gears from the used tranny than to buy new gears. The tranny you get will at the minimum need to be cleaned out good. If you are allready planning on a rebuild like me then it will be worth it. Expect First gear to look it's age. First in the 4 speed is Synchro'd so it may look great. First in the 3 speed isn't and suffers chips :doh: The tranny I got had some niks on first gear but it works fine :D Running right now on my DD.

Chris
 
CruisinTiger said:
Theo how hard is it to replace the syncrows? How long would it take a novice with a buddy's help to get thru it? I know that's kinda like askin how long would it take to walk around the world. And if you have rebuilt a tranny before did you take pics by chance, kinda curious to see what it looks like inside. Thanks guys

It isn't hard if you have some decent instructions. The couple I've done (GM) were covered in my MOTOR manuals. Step by step with good photos. (Sorry, I didn't take pics.) I don't have any manuals like these that cover Toyota trannies, but my Haines was good enough to do my Toyota transfer case. Probably OK for a tranny too.

The synchros just slide onto the main shaft between gears. You have to remove the shafts to do it, so it makes sense to replace the bearings, seals, and gaskets at the same time.

There are a couple of pitfalls that come to mind. (Others will know more about this.) You could have a bad gear if it's popping out of 2nd. I don't think synchros act to keep the gears engaged; they just get them spinning at the same speed so they can mesh. Or you might have a problem with a shift fork or in the tower. I once had a weak ball and spring in a tower and it popped out of 3rd until I fixed it.

You could pull the tower and take a gander. Drain the oil too and look for metal.

If all it needs is a kit, you should be able to do it in a weekend. That includes removal and installation. I don't suppose the tranny is sitting on the bench? :)
 
Thanks for the info Theo. Good news is I had the oil drained about 4 months ago by the mechanic at the dealership. We are kinda lucky here in SC, we have a guy that is the parts manager and a top rate mechanic that are both part of the cruiser club here that work at toyota. He's does very good work and I was glad to hear that there was no metal in the oil. And I wish I could clap my hands and it would be sittin on the bench. I have pulled the shifter out before and I replaced that plastic ring in there, didn't make a difference, is there something else I should look at?
 
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