Marlin Crawler Land Cruiser Products

[Randy88FJ62]

A direct bolt in toybox mating to the stock A440F transmission would have been nice a few years back. I was watching the development and almost bought one of the prototypes off someone here on mud. I hesitated because the lack of support and thought it was a dying product.

The second hang up is all the small details that end up causing headaches I have heard first hand from FJ60 toybox owners in my club. If I ever purchased a toybox I'd have your shop do the drivetrain work then I'd drop it in the cruiser. So I am looking for simplicity of installs in the future for home mechanics. Your engineering team needs to think about end user installs.

If I knew 100% that an A440F toybox was guaranteed in the next 12 months or less then I'd hold out and step back from the tcase gears I have been looking at. I know that's an almost impossible task given design times, prototypes, and production but you've already designed one so making the modifications to a turn key install would be amazing. Maybe you need to hire some aerospace engineers just south over the hill?

Is the Marlin Crawler engineering team capable of designing a direct bolt in A440F toybox kit? (the only mods being driveshaft(s) and transmission hump? That's a steep order I would be hard pressed to do at my work.

I would pay around $2500 for a turn key A440F toybox kit including shift levers I could install in my garage. Your competition is $1,000 4:1 tcase gears.

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Randy-you could do a manual swap if your real goal is to keep the drivetrain shorter. Even an H55 is significantly shorter than the A440 and lighter too. Using an H42 is shorter still and more likely to be the target Toybox I would guess.

A Toybox will not be $500. Lol.

It won't be $3-5k like a H55 either!

Should be less than a grand I imagine?

Toyboxes (speculating ) will be $2500 give or take. They were $2000 when I got mine. And that was awhile back. It's a nicely machined well built piece of equipment. I'd buy another without hesitation.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

I am not interested in manual transmissions for my cruiser. It was the main reason I bought a 62.

 

[TachedOutOffRoad]

The manual is exactly why I sold my 80 and bought a 60.

I'd take dual cases over a single 4:1 case anyday $ being equal. But I'd take $1000 4:1 over $2500+ duals.

 

[TachedOutOffRoad]

This truck had 23 spline 2.23 dualed to a MC competition 4.7 gear set 23 spline chromo output rear case. Built over time.

If you have the cash up front, that is Atlas kind of money.


I'm changing my vote for an adapter to run a mini tranny /cases behind the F over a crawl box.

May be a minority though.

What's a cost guesstimate on one of those?

 

[WILLD420]

I'm voting some low buck options, more beef and consider the 80 series in interchange options. Let's face it, 60's are becoming the new collectible but there are lots of them that are too far gone to make pretty again. Just because mini truck stuff can work doesn't mean it should be done. These are not mini trucks, the weight is much higher. This lends me a lot of concern for using mini truck stuff. Sure, the trans is pretty tough but it's not 3/4 ton tough like the original stuff was. Also, the trend of LS motors is only going to increase, so will 6 speed autos. As good as the toybox is, it's not all that great when you think about 400 lb/ft of torque feeding through all those gears.

If you want to corner the LC market you need two options for us to consider. The low budget model and the mid budget model. The high end is already covered by the Atlas / Stak (whatever they call it now that Stak is gone) options. Think simple then expand.

If you dont think there is a market to support having your own shafts made, Find someone to build the semi float shafts off an existing blank. Change the wheel bearing design if you have to in order to make it work.

Convince AA to bring back the np203 to splitcase adapter. All the design work has been done and there are still thousands of 203 boxes out there that can be put behind almost any domestic transmission. A 2-1 doubler is better than no doubler at all .

80's are plentiful and coming down in price. With the interchangeable nature between them and 60's the market is there for products that would fit both. Heck, I've considered an Orion case just so I could get what I want and ditch the splitcase sine the support is so much better.

 

[60Works]

A call to Marlin last week revealed they are working on a redesigned toy box. Best guess was early next year before any hope of availability.