Low Budget Power Steering

[Pinion]

I have been reading about doing the conversion through several day's worth of searches and cant seem to find what I am looking for. Here is what I have for my 11/72 FJ40 and I wanted to know where to go from here.

I have a 79 2F that is threaded for a power steering pump,
a 79 steering column with good rag joint.

What I am looking to do (and tell me if I'm wrong..) is to put a mini PS box on the frame and an FJ60 power steering pump on the block. Right now I am in the middle of piecing this back together as everything is off the frame so I could rust treat it. I dont have a lot of time to be making brackets and whatnot and money is an issue.

I only have maybe two weeks to get this whole thing done since I will have to get it on a truck carrier for CA. I need something that has minimal fabbing and it is my hope that the Mini PS box will be able to sit on the frame as it is. I dont remember how they mount though..

 

[woody]

minitruck PS box is the easiest, but you need an adapter plate to mate the box to the stock frame tower. Otherwise, it's "just that easy..." lol

 

[mallred]

mini bracket

I got a nice hd mini ps box bracket from Willaim Dorry, real nice work. looks strong and great service, I don't know how hard it will be to get a LC pump bracket but he also sold me a bracket for a sag pumpbracket, I haven't used them yet as I haven't decided on which LC it going to go on. If you need them faster than he can get them to you and you arange to replace mine we could work something out. Myrle-- William Dorry
E-mail Address(es):
wdorry@yahoo.com

 

[mr_manny]

correct me If I'm wrong, but don't you also have to address the steering shaft (early cruiser to mini gear box)?
I think you will have to fab some sort of joint to attach them...

manny 72fj40

 

[Landpimp]

all I know is yes the fj60 PS pump will mount to the block.

I would think the 79 colume and mini box(and mount) would work fine

 

[cruzer]

can't you put the guts from the mini box into the LC Non PS box and get a PS box out of it that you don't have to have a new mounting plate for? ???? don't know for sure but i thought this was true?

Stew

 

[TJDIV]

*Arnold Voice over*


"just leeft more weights, stop whineeeng...you don't need da pow-uh, you have da pow-uh...girlie man...".......

 

[Radd Cruisers]

can't you put the guts from the mini box into the LC Non PS box and get a PS box out of it that you don't have to have a new mounting plate for? ???? don't know for sure but i thought this was true?

Stew

No, not a option.

Side by each you will be surprised how small the mini truck PS box is, don`t let that fool you as it works great.

And its like a one bannana job.

 

[mr_manny]

The steering shaft still has to be addressed (early cruiser), right?

Does anyone have any pics of a mini gearbox install?

manny 72fj40

 

[atoyot]

The only pics and articles with mini power steering conversions in the tech links are for FJ55's.
Maybe you could take pics of your PS conversion so I can use them for mine.

 

[Landpimp]

sorta, you can put mini truck PS guts(85 and earlier) into a empty 79 fj40 PS box(casting) they castings can be had new for $300 or less(only 79 is availible and it works fine). You need a OEM fj40 or mini truck seal kit($60) same part # for either. Then a used mini box and someone to swap the guts(I paid $200 for this to be done). this is what i did in my 82 fj40, LOVE it, but its spendier then a mini box and mount, but its OEM and bolts right up and has the right angle for the shaft.

can't you put the guts from the mini box into the LC Non PS box and get a PS box out of it that you don't have to have a new mounting plate for? ???? don't know for sure but i thought this was true?

Stew

 

[Landpimp]

here is a pic of a OEM fj40 PS pump(aka a OEM casting with mini truck guts) on my 82 fj40

I have some pics of a full OEM 80 fj40 PS set up that I "might" sell.

 

[Landpimp]

OEM stock 81 fj40 PS box

 

[Trevor]

Pimp, does that swap only work on '79+ FJ40's? I thought '78 and below had a different steering shaft length.

 

[mr_manny]

Pimp,
Thanks for the info/pics...

Trevor,
It looks like a "rag joint" or special steering shaft u-joint will be required for this mod.

JT has the following FAQ:
http://jtoutfitters.zoovy.com/category/power_steering/

Will this kit work on a 72 and down FJ40/45?
Yes, but it does require attaching a rag joint (steering coupler) to your one piece factory column.. This is not difficult but will require one weld and therefore is not entirely bolt on.


hope this helps,
manny 72fj40

 

[Landpimp]

even on 79+ the shaft for a manual box needs to be trimed down a bit. I have no clue on pre 79.

Pimp, does that swap only work on '79+ FJ40's? I thought '78 and below had a different steering shaft length.

 

[Pinion]

Thanks everyone. So I will need a bracket to run a mini truck ps box, and it wont fit on the stock frame mount? Will the 2F pump and mini box have the same fittings?

 

[Radd Cruisers]

Well you learn something new every day, I had did the conversion on a 1977 FJ45.

No idea the 1979+ could do the guts thingy.

As for the fittings I remember them to be the same, probably won`t matter as you will have to make up custom lines.

One things for sure, I was told the pipe threads are metric and not standard after being told the opositte for years. We ended up stripping out the threads on on steering box, could not figure out why?

Correct me if I am wrong?

Now you have me thinking John about the steering boxes, I will have to compare the mini pump too the 82 factory unit on hand.

 

[wdorry]

P/s

I have all the brackets you need to do the Saginaw pump and the mini straight axle gearbox. You can check out some feedback on my brackets on this forum. Type in (wdorry) in the search. You can see pics at the below site. Thanks Bill

http://photos.yahoo.com/wdorry

 

[Landpimp]

the 79 PS casting and mini truck gut swap is for sure not the budget way to go, its only a bit cheaper then tracking down a nice used stock OEM PS box($600ish), but the benifit is you get a rebuild box that is good as new.

Well you learn something new every day, I had did the conversion on a 1977 FJ45.

No idea the 1979+ could do the guts thingy.

As for the fittings I remember them to be the same, probably won`t matter as you will have to make up custom lines.

One things for sure, I was told the pipe threads are metric and not standard after being told the opositte for years. We ended up stripping out the threads on on steering box, could not figure out why?

Correct me if I am wrong?

Now you have me thinking John about the steering boxes, I will have to compare the mini pump too the 82 factory unit on hand.