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I'm not sure you have space between the frame rail and the rear driveshaft to go any bigger width wise.
Length wise you might get a bit more capacity.
The key is sourcing the OEM aux. tank for the 200 series that goes where your spare tire goes...available as an option in ME/Australia/NZ/Africa markets.
That, or spend money getting one fabricated and then all of the bits and pieces needed for fuel transfer and measurement.
Good luck.
Length wise you might get a bit more capacity.
The key is sourcing the OEM aux. tank for the 200 series that goes where your spare tire goes...available as an option in ME/Australia/NZ/Africa markets.
That, or spend money getting one fabricated and then all of the bits and pieces needed for fuel transfer and measurement.
Good luck.
I'm not sure if these guys export (they're in Australia I believe) but they have a few options. A few difference capacities that fit with or without the spare below.
Long-range fuel tanks for the 200-series.
Note: I know nothing about the company and have absolutely no affiliation with them, nor do I know the quality of the products. I'm just passing along information I found when I did a search.
Long-range fuel tanks for the 200-series.
Note: I know nothing about the company and have absolutely no affiliation with them, nor do I know the quality of the products. I'm just passing along information I found when I did a search.
e mail correspondence
I have talked to ARB and Long Ranger about additional tank. below is my correspondence with them. I have not done anything yet, but still thinking hard about it. The leak detection and having to reset is my main concern. Also, I figure if i do the tank, I might as well do the largest one and move the spare to a new rear bumper. There are 2 guys somewhere out there that has done this, so be great to hear from them....
Regards,
___________________________________________________
Hi Trent,
The price on the tank will be $1910.77 landed here in Seattle, plus freight to MS. Allow approximately 3 months delivery time from when the order is placed and confirmed. This order will have to be prepaid, as it is a special order. We cannot guarantee fitment, and therefore cannot offer any warranty or returns of this item.
Thanks,
Michael Tomczyk
Sales Manager for Southeast USA and Latin America
ARB USA
720 SW 34th Street
Renton, WA 98057
P: 425-264-1391
F: 425-264-1392
MichaelT@arbusa.com
http://www.arbusa.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/ARB4WD
From: Trent Mulloy [mailto:TAMulloy@lmfco.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:24 PM
To: The Long Ranger Sales; Michael Tomczyk
Subject: RE: TA65 USA The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
Mike,
Can you work me up a price for their kit? Figured you guys were better at importing than me.
Regards,
Trent A. Mulloy | President | Laurel Machine & Foundry Co.
P O Box 1049 | 810 Front St | Laurel, MS 39441
Office 601.428.0541 | Wireless 601.433.2529 | Fax 601.369.0495
TAMulloy@LMFco.com | www.LMFco.com
From: The Long Ranger Sales [mailto:sales@thelongranger.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Trent Mulloy; Michaelt@arbusa.com
Subject: Re: TA65 USA The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
I typed up a reply yesterday, but for some reason it did not go though and has been lost
Anyway here we go again
We have sold at least two of these in the USA
They have also been fitted in sout america, sigapore, the middle east and africa
Most are for diesel, but we do have Gas (petrol) here in Australia.
I have just finished reading a post on an FJ landcruiser forum about fitment of an Auxiliary tank.
They have the same issue as teh landcruiser.
Most vehicles in the US have a leak detection system and error codes can come up after fitment of a bigger tank because it thinks there is a leak but there isn't
Some guys get these errors weekly, some get them monthly, some don't get them at all.
Some of the guys have bought a scan gauge to remove the error codes when they come up.
But everyone of the forum has said that even if they can't sort out this issue they would do it all again because the extra range is worth it.
The problems I know of in your country with fitment to a gas vehcile:
1. The carbon canister is above the spare tyre where our tank goes.
This can be relocated with a longer hose and some custom made brackets.
This may take a couple of hours.
2. The new twin filler neck we supply to enable filling the second tank does not have a restrictor.
This is a minor issue, if we know the tank is for the US at the time of ordering we can supply a new twin filler with the restrictor in it.
With out the restrictor you may fail some sort of emissions test in some states (may be called a smog test).
All the restrictor does is stop people putting the wrong fuel type in the car, nothing else.
But with this restrictor you may not be able to fill the tanks independantly as we do, but will have to fill them both at thte same time.
3.The tank will not be dot approved
The guys selling the FJ cruiser tank have labeld it "for offroad use only)
I think to be DOT approved a crash test maybe required, this is not going to happen on a small volume product.
4. The main issue will be the leak test the vehicle does.
As stated previoulsy when a bigger tank is fitted the system thinks there is a leak, but ther isn't
I know transfer flow have a bigger tank for the tundra and they may have resolved the issue, but I am not in a postion to find out and if they have invested a lot of time into fixing this issue they are not going to tell the world. Pehaps you guys know of somone who has fitted a tank to a tundra and can find out what if anything happens with this leak detection setup in theis vehicle.
At the end of the day if the customer has a need for more capacity then these issue will be les of a concern and probly worth getting the tank
If it is just another accessory to add to the car then the hassle that goes with a bigger tank in the US is probly not worth it
Below is a few random comments from one owner a couple of years ago
These customers fitted the 180 ltre tank, the same goes for all the TA range of tanks for the 200 series/lexus
Hey Steve, yup - gotta relocate the canister. Also, need to make your own
vacuum hose since the options you "should" have aren't going to allow you to
reach with the hose provided.
I moved the canister to the inside rear-driver side wheel well - fitted in
nicely. Also, made my own hose.
> Funny you wrote, I was going to send you an email. Yes, there is
> something with the tank that is causing VSC to go off. I had it happen a
> few times now. First time I thought it was the gasket seal at the sender
> unit, then there was a leak around the weld at the filler neck. I thought
> all was well until the error came up again this weekend. The cruiser runs
> checks and runs pressure thru the fuel line, a leak sets off the VSC
> lights
Went straight in. Thanks for the attachments. Feel free to reference me if
you have people with questions.
Regards
Ric Black
Production manager
The Long Ranger
Ph: (02) 49533288
Fax: (02) 49531916
www.oot4wd.com.au
www.thelongranger.com.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Trent Mulloy" <TAMulloy@lmfco.com>
To: <Michaelt@arbusa.com>
Cc: <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
> Dave,
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Trent Mulloy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Tomczyk <Michaelt@arbusa.com>
> To: Trent Mulloy
> Cc: The Long Ranger Sales <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
> Sent: Tue May 04 11:03:59 2010
> Subject: RE: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
> Yes, we can special order them, although a guarantee of fitment is not
> possible. These are designed for right hand drive Australian models,
> and I would be concerned that it may not work with a left hand drive
> gasoline engine. Maybe Dave can tell us if it will fit the
> petrol/gasoline models?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael Tomczyk
>
> Sales Manager for Southeast USA and Latin America
> ARB USA
> 720 SW 34th Street
> Renton, WA 98057
> P: 425-264-1391
> F: 425-264-1392
> MichaelT@arbusa.com
> http://www.arbusa.com
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ARB4WD
>
> You can view ARB products specific to your vehicle by clicking here:
> http://arbusa.com/Products/Vehicle-Application-Guide/53.aspx
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trent Mulloy [mailto:TAMulloy@lmfco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:42 AM
> To: Michael Tomczyk
> Cc: The Long Ranger Sales
> Subject: FW: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
> Importance: High
>
> Mike,
>
> See below. I know that they sell these through ARB dealers in
> Australia. Can you guys get these? Would like to purchase one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Trent A. Mulloy | President | Laurel Machine & Foundry Co.
> P O Box 1049 | 810 Front St | Laurel, MS 39441
> Office 601.428.0541 | Wireless 601.433.2529 | Fax 601.369.0495
> TAMulloy@LMFco.com | www.LMFco.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Long Ranger Sales [mailto:sales@thelongranger.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:37 AM
> To: Trent Mulloy
> Subject: Re: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
> Hi, Cost of this tank is $1381.00 AUD. I will only send to your nearest
> port - this is due to so many problems importing into the US. Seafreight
>
> port to port only is approx $600.00 AUD - this does not include any
> import
> duties or taxes. The other alternative is try ARB 4x4 Accessories US.
> Thanks
> Dave
> The Long Ranger
> Ph: (02) 49533288
> Fax: (02) 49531916
> www.oot4wd.com.au
> www.thelongranger.com.au
>
> This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TAMulloy@LMFco.com>
> To: <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:20 AM
> Subject: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
>
>> Here is the information submitted to
> www.thelongranger.com.au/contact.asp
>> from 68.63.220.125 on Monday, May 03, 2010 at 5:20:31 PM
>> ------------------------
>> Email: TAMulloy@LMFco.com
>>
>> Verify: TAMulloy@LMFco.com
>>
>> Name: Trent Mulloy
>>
>> City: Laurel
>>
>> Post Code: 39440
>>
>> State: OTHER
>>
>> Country: USA
>>
>> Make: Toyota
>>
>> Model: LC200
>>
>> Year: 2009
>>
>> Part Number: TA65S
>>
>> Comments: Looking for Price and Unit cost. Can you ship to US?
> Shipping
>> address would be 810 Front Street, Laurel, Mississippi, 39440.
> Interested
>> in the 70L unit. Cheers.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
I have talked to ARB and Long Ranger about additional tank. below is my correspondence with them. I have not done anything yet, but still thinking hard about it. The leak detection and having to reset is my main concern. Also, I figure if i do the tank, I might as well do the largest one and move the spare to a new rear bumper. There are 2 guys somewhere out there that has done this, so be great to hear from them....
Regards,
___________________________________________________
Hi Trent,
The price on the tank will be $1910.77 landed here in Seattle, plus freight to MS. Allow approximately 3 months delivery time from when the order is placed and confirmed. This order will have to be prepaid, as it is a special order. We cannot guarantee fitment, and therefore cannot offer any warranty or returns of this item.
Thanks,
Michael Tomczyk
Sales Manager for Southeast USA and Latin America
ARB USA
720 SW 34th Street
Renton, WA 98057
P: 425-264-1391
F: 425-264-1392
MichaelT@arbusa.com
http://www.arbusa.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/ARB4WD
From: Trent Mulloy [mailto:TAMulloy@lmfco.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:24 PM
To: The Long Ranger Sales; Michael Tomczyk
Subject: RE: TA65 USA The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
Mike,
Can you work me up a price for their kit? Figured you guys were better at importing than me.
Regards,
Trent A. Mulloy | President | Laurel Machine & Foundry Co.
P O Box 1049 | 810 Front St | Laurel, MS 39441
Office 601.428.0541 | Wireless 601.433.2529 | Fax 601.369.0495
TAMulloy@LMFco.com | www.LMFco.com
From: The Long Ranger Sales [mailto:sales@thelongranger.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Trent Mulloy; Michaelt@arbusa.com
Subject: Re: TA65 USA The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
I typed up a reply yesterday, but for some reason it did not go though and has been lost
Anyway here we go again
We have sold at least two of these in the USA
They have also been fitted in sout america, sigapore, the middle east and africa
Most are for diesel, but we do have Gas (petrol) here in Australia.
I have just finished reading a post on an FJ landcruiser forum about fitment of an Auxiliary tank.
They have the same issue as teh landcruiser.
Most vehicles in the US have a leak detection system and error codes can come up after fitment of a bigger tank because it thinks there is a leak but there isn't
Some guys get these errors weekly, some get them monthly, some don't get them at all.
Some of the guys have bought a scan gauge to remove the error codes when they come up.
But everyone of the forum has said that even if they can't sort out this issue they would do it all again because the extra range is worth it.
The problems I know of in your country with fitment to a gas vehcile:
1. The carbon canister is above the spare tyre where our tank goes.
This can be relocated with a longer hose and some custom made brackets.
This may take a couple of hours.
2. The new twin filler neck we supply to enable filling the second tank does not have a restrictor.
This is a minor issue, if we know the tank is for the US at the time of ordering we can supply a new twin filler with the restrictor in it.
With out the restrictor you may fail some sort of emissions test in some states (may be called a smog test).
All the restrictor does is stop people putting the wrong fuel type in the car, nothing else.
But with this restrictor you may not be able to fill the tanks independantly as we do, but will have to fill them both at thte same time.
3.The tank will not be dot approved
The guys selling the FJ cruiser tank have labeld it "for offroad use only)
I think to be DOT approved a crash test maybe required, this is not going to happen on a small volume product.
4. The main issue will be the leak test the vehicle does.
As stated previoulsy when a bigger tank is fitted the system thinks there is a leak, but ther isn't
I know transfer flow have a bigger tank for the tundra and they may have resolved the issue, but I am not in a postion to find out and if they have invested a lot of time into fixing this issue they are not going to tell the world. Pehaps you guys know of somone who has fitted a tank to a tundra and can find out what if anything happens with this leak detection setup in theis vehicle.
At the end of the day if the customer has a need for more capacity then these issue will be les of a concern and probly worth getting the tank
If it is just another accessory to add to the car then the hassle that goes with a bigger tank in the US is probly not worth it
Below is a few random comments from one owner a couple of years ago
These customers fitted the 180 ltre tank, the same goes for all the TA range of tanks for the 200 series/lexus
Hey Steve, yup - gotta relocate the canister. Also, need to make your own
vacuum hose since the options you "should" have aren't going to allow you to
reach with the hose provided.
I moved the canister to the inside rear-driver side wheel well - fitted in
nicely. Also, made my own hose.
> Funny you wrote, I was going to send you an email. Yes, there is
> something with the tank that is causing VSC to go off. I had it happen a
> few times now. First time I thought it was the gasket seal at the sender
> unit, then there was a leak around the weld at the filler neck. I thought
> all was well until the error came up again this weekend. The cruiser runs
> checks and runs pressure thru the fuel line, a leak sets off the VSC
> lights
Went straight in. Thanks for the attachments. Feel free to reference me if
you have people with questions.
Regards
Ric Black
Production manager
The Long Ranger
Ph: (02) 49533288
Fax: (02) 49531916
www.oot4wd.com.au
www.thelongranger.com.au
This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information
intended
for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person
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COPY OR DELIVER THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE ELSE.
If you receive this message by mistake please telephone the nominated
office. Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trent Mulloy" <TAMulloy@lmfco.com>
To: <Michaelt@arbusa.com>
Cc: <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
> Dave,
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Trent Mulloy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Tomczyk <Michaelt@arbusa.com>
> To: Trent Mulloy
> Cc: The Long Ranger Sales <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
> Sent: Tue May 04 11:03:59 2010
> Subject: RE: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
> Yes, we can special order them, although a guarantee of fitment is not
> possible. These are designed for right hand drive Australian models,
> and I would be concerned that it may not work with a left hand drive
> gasoline engine. Maybe Dave can tell us if it will fit the
> petrol/gasoline models?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael Tomczyk
>
> Sales Manager for Southeast USA and Latin America
> ARB USA
> 720 SW 34th Street
> Renton, WA 98057
> P: 425-264-1391
> F: 425-264-1392
> MichaelT@arbusa.com
> http://www.arbusa.com
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ARB4WD
>
> You can view ARB products specific to your vehicle by clicking here:
> http://arbusa.com/Products/Vehicle-Application-Guide/53.aspx
>
> Important Notice and Disclaimer:
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they
> are addressed. Any unauthorized form of review, disclosure,
> modification, distribution, storage and/or publication of this email
> message is prohibited. In the event you have received this message in
> error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of the
> message from your system. ARB Corporation Ltd does not warrant that this
> email or any attachments are error or virus free and the Company accepts
> no liability for any damages caused by any virus transmitted through
> this email.
>
> In circumstances where the contents of this email communication may form
> the basis of a binding legal contract between the parties, the recipient
> is hereby notified that ARB Corporation Ltd employees are not authorized
> to form such binding contracts by email unless this is specifically
> confirmed in a separate e-mail from the employee's Branch or
> Departmental Manager. If this email contains advice which the recipient
> or a third party later relies upon, then those parties are hereby
> notified that ARB Corporation Ltd accepts no liability for any damages
> caused by the application, use or ignorance of such advice.
>
> ARB Corporation Ltd, 42 Garden St, Kilsyth, VIC, 3137, Australia /
> ARB-USA, 720 SW 34th St., Renton, WA, 98057, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trent Mulloy [mailto:TAMulloy@lmfco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:42 AM
> To: Michael Tomczyk
> Cc: The Long Ranger Sales
> Subject: FW: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
> Importance: High
>
> Mike,
>
> See below. I know that they sell these through ARB dealers in
> Australia. Can you guys get these? Would like to purchase one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Trent A. Mulloy | President | Laurel Machine & Foundry Co.
> P O Box 1049 | 810 Front St | Laurel, MS 39441
> Office 601.428.0541 | Wireless 601.433.2529 | Fax 601.369.0495
> TAMulloy@LMFco.com | www.LMFco.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Long Ranger Sales [mailto:sales@thelongranger.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:37 AM
> To: Trent Mulloy
> Subject: Re: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
> Hi, Cost of this tank is $1381.00 AUD. I will only send to your nearest
> port - this is due to so many problems importing into the US. Seafreight
>
> port to port only is approx $600.00 AUD - this does not include any
> import
> duties or taxes. The other alternative is try ARB 4x4 Accessories US.
> Thanks
> Dave
> The Long Ranger
> Ph: (02) 49533288
> Fax: (02) 49531916
> www.oot4wd.com.au
> www.thelongranger.com.au
>
> This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information
> intended
> for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the
> person
> responsible for delivering the message to whom it is addressed YOU MAY
> NOT
> COPY OR DELIVER THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE ELSE.
>
> If you receive this message by mistake please telephone the nominated
> office. Thank you.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TAMulloy@LMFco.com>
> To: <sales@thelongranger.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:20 AM
> Subject: The Long Ranger Website Enquiry
>
>
>> Here is the information submitted to
> www.thelongranger.com.au/contact.asp
>> from 68.63.220.125 on Monday, May 03, 2010 at 5:20:31 PM
>> ------------------------
>> Email: TAMulloy@LMFco.com
>>
>> Verify: TAMulloy@LMFco.com
>>
>> Name: Trent Mulloy
>>
>> City: Laurel
>>
>> Post Code: 39440
>>
>> State: OTHER
>>
>> Country: USA
>>
>> Make: Toyota
>>
>> Model: LC200
>>
>> Year: 2009
>>
>> Part Number: TA65S
>>
>> Comments: Looking for Price and Unit cost. Can you ship to US?
> Shipping
>> address would be 810 Front Street, Laurel, Mississippi, 39440.
> Interested
>> in the 70L unit. Cheers.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
