Thanks man. I definitely want to go but I don't want to be silly either. Do you think there are some alternate paths that won't be so risky? Papa Smurf has a big booty so I'm usually concerned with departure angles. If I have some spotter help, maybe I'll be ok.@Hank Tank , I am certainly not going to discourage you on going. I would love to see Papa Smurf out there. It would definitely increase our cool factor by several multiples. I think steve is right, and that you will be okay. The only places I can think where there might be an issue would be on a few of the steeper hills where my Atrac was definitely in action. My wife followed in the 80 and I had her locked on those hills. I just don't know how it would be without lockers or atrac. I also believe from my past life with my 55 that you should be fine. Hopefully some others will chime in with their thoughts.