Don't say Head Gasket

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I have two of Blackstone Labs oil sample mailing kits in my garage, I'll PM you my phone and you can have one. It gave me much peace of mind to know that mine was not a head gasket but bubbles in the coolant from some other source, I think....:frown:
 
Take your sample and send it in. Also, think again of the possibility of a fuel problem. If you were idling/stop & go traffic for 2 hours, you probably ran it a little on the hot side. When you also add altitude to the heat, Fuel Vapor Lock is a distinct possibility that would cause your engine stumbling, etc. that you described. And would go away after you get going and get the LC cooled back down a little...
 
Ok, so here is the update on my HG issue:

No bubbles in the overflow tank. I mean nothing. I have checked it several times and no bubbles at idle, no bubbles at 3K RPM. I have not seen/heard anything else like the gurgling I heard up in Canada. Not really trying to duplicate it, but...

Still no frothy oil on filler cap. Still no exhaust/fuel smell in coolant. I'm also not going through coolant at any noticeable rate.

Here are my questions:
1. How early is too early to Blackstone the oil? I have just under 2K miles on the M1 that's in there now. I would think that would be enought time to be conclusive for things like water and glycol, maybe not enough time for micro amounts of some trace metals.

2. What is the best method to pull a sample without changing the oil? I don't know if a tube through the dipstick is the way to go, or if I should get it up to operating temp and drain the oil into a clean pan, pull a sample and pour back what is left. Problem is, it's pouring rain in P-town and my garage is full of house re-model junk. I would hate to get rain water in the sample and skew the data.

3. Has anybody ever boiled Toyota red coolant on the stove? After Doug's mention of there being a rubbery pink residue near his coolant leak, I got to wondering if maybe super-heated coolant would cause the burnt rubber smell a few of us have noticed. Maybe a leak onto the exhaust? I might try this one at home over the weekend.

I'm starting to think that all the separate, small issues I noticed and originally thought might be head gasket related are, in fact, separate small issues.
 
C6H12O6 said:
I'm starting to think that all the separate, small issues I noticed and originally thought might be head gasket related are, in fact, separate small issues.

That's what I keep thinking with mine... and then about once a month she makes me second guess that thought... :rolleyes:

I really hope it's not a HG, I personally think that you fixing the tree damage was enought $$$ to throw at it for at least a year!
 
Question #1 - Definitely enough miles to look for water, probably enough for wear, but there won't be much on yours because these motors don't wear out very fast, at least not to the point of puking bearings, which is what creates the metals in the oil.

Question #2 - Borrow slick little drill mounted pump I bought for changing oil in a boat I used to have.

Question #3 - I have burning smell too with the plain old green stuff.(turning around quickly looking for voodoo needles)
 
To get a sample, you'll get a bit oily but no biggie. Open the drain, stick bottle in the flow for a second, then put the drain plug back in. I lose less than a quart.

DougM
 
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