Decisions...

[Tex68w]

I think the lack of deals is all relative. I don't often hear about people buying a new 200 for sticker. Usually new comes in well under $80k. Invoice +$500? Something like that? Sure there isn't cash-back out the wazoo, but it's not the $10k-12k off people get with Yukon/Tahoe/Escalade. In fact as the prices of the domestic large SUV offerings go up, the 200 becomes even more of a bargain. Now we all know why someone would plunk down $78k for a new 200: because it'll last forever and it has incredible stock off-road performance; but it becomes an even better deal when it's priced next to an $80k Tahoe or $100k (!!!!) Escalade, both of which are typically discounted by 15%.

A 1794 Tundra is $15k less than comparable Sierra Denali. Does the Denali have more gadgets and do-dads than the Tundra? Absolutely. $15k more of them? I guess it depends on how much you value the fancy tailgate transformer. Now the Sierra AT4 is pretty cool. I like the design and the idea behind it. I think the 2500 AT4 with the Duramax will be wildly popular... but I digress.

Plus... I rented a Tahoe a few weeks ago. Strangest thing - the wheel is slightly off center over my right leg. I thought it was my imagination at first, but no, it's offset. That would drive me insane.

GM products suck, end of story!

 

[PhiloCruiser]

Forecasts are all anyone has. Lets touch base this time next year and see where they are.

I’m confused...are we touching base next year or by the end of this year. You’ve said two different things.

Historically, the MBA has forecasted the 10 year treasury higher than what it’s ended up being which I’m sure you know coincides with rates. That said, I think...and I’d have to look to be sure, but they indicated low 5’s this year...maybe high 4’s.

Now if you’re indicating the GSE’s may dissolve and be replaced by private equity companies looking to get into long term financing, that is a different thing. However, the gov’t is sure LOVING the repayment of the GSE conservatorship, aren’t they. Never seen the gov’t give up free money.

 

[DenverFJ40]

Assuming all things are equal, is 20k miles worth $8k? I know these trucks go forever, so thinking about saving the cash for mods.

2016 w/ 60k miles for $55k
or
2016 w/ 43k for $63k

 

[AFdude]

Assuming all things are equal, is 20k miles worth $8k? I know these trucks go forever, so thinking about saving the cash for mods.

2016 w/ 60k miles for $55k
or
2016 w/ 43k for $63k

Tough one. For keeping it a very long time I use the school of thought to buy the lowest mileage you can afford.

 

[DenverFJ40]

Agreed, current plan is to use the 200 as our everyday family ride, and retire it as 'Overland' forever truck in 5 or so years when the inevitable upgrade itch devours me and it will be my forever truck.

 

[hank ream]

You have to remember that they are allowing a certain amount for my vehicle...which I can only assume impacts what they are “showing” me on the new one. If you want, I can get you in touch with my salesman. I’d prefer not to say who/where they are on the forum...but feel free to PM me and I’ll get you his information.