First, do you really need the packages? I just want something rugged and dependable, I am not very concerned with 'rear sonar' and so on. Now, the question is this...I say all this now, but will I regret it later? I would hate to aftermarket poorly and just wonder if those who have a stripped down FJ wish they had done otherwise. I actually like the black wheels and manual trannie; am I nuts?! I am not an 'off-roader' per se, but I do live in the mountains of NC and need 4-wheel drive and the ability to run over stuff now and then. Also, any leads for good salespeople and good dealerships? I can go to Easley SC, Asheville NC, Atlanta, GA, etc. cheers!