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Blue Phoenix
It's really tough to find public areas with decent access if you don't know where they are.

Take a look at this Alaska Department of Natural Resources Public Information Center website Maps, Plats & Data Look under the Public Maps section, and Status Plats, Surveys and Land Records. Once you go into each of those pages, you can select the criteria you want. What you want to find is land that is open to public use and off roading, since something like 98% of Alaska IS open to Off Highway vehicles it seems like it would be easy, but it's not really. There are actually a lot of land use issues here in Alaska. One of the big issues is trespassing on Land held by Native Corporations, and People. For instance, when you come into Alaska, and Tok you can either go South or Northwest. If you go South you'll Run into Glennallen. That town is pretty much Smack-Dab in the middle of the Ahtna Coroporation's Land. That being said there are plenty of places to go, but you must be careful, and be considerate of the landowners. You should be able to Google Ahtna Corp. and might even be able to look at a map of their Land selection according to the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA). Or, you could order one. If you go towards Glenallen to get to Anchorage, there are some Fantastic rivers to fish for King Salmon-depending on when you come. The Gulkana, Gakona, Tazlina, and Klutina, are a few of the best. Klutina Lake has a 22 mile trail from the Richarson Highway South of Glenallen, and I you can hit some nice Lake Trout! It's pretty fantastic! The trail is Surrounded by Ahtna land, but anything on the south side, near the river, less than 50' is considered public access. Also, Lake Louise, just West and North of Glenallen is Awesome, if you take your canoe, go there! I hear there are lots of Lake Trout, but have never fished there. It's beautiful. The Glenn Highway is a National Scenic Highway and is AWESOME especially in mid September. There are lots of little lakes along the way stalked by Fish and Game with trout! Good eats. There is a place to Wheel and Fish Near Eureka, PM me and I can give you more specifics. I would also try to contact Mark @Cruisers Only in Wasilla, AK as he has led the Alaska Cruiser Trek since they began. He would be another great resource, especially for off-road adventures.

As far as going West from Anchorage, unless you fly, you can't because there is a Fjord (Cook Inlet/Knick Arm) which by the way has the second largest tidal flow next to the Bay of Fundy in Nova Scotia. But, if you're meaning out near Trapper Creek and Petersville, then, there are some wheeling opportunities, and fishing! There might be some opportunities for stream crossings as well. Another word of Caution: It is illegal to cross an anadromous stream with your vehicle, meaning a stream inhabited by any fish that is born in fresh water, goes out to sea, and returns (You should know this via your degree). So, be sure to check Alaska DNR and/or AK Fish and Game websites for this info.(maps). If you find you MUST use your vehicle to cross a stream to get to your destination, there are permits available, but I'm not sure how long it takes and what the criteria are.

Look at this website from Alaska Extreme Four Wheelers: http://www.akextreme4x4.com/Club_Web_Page/Trail_Ratings.html That is a list of trails and what that club deems appropriate in terms of vehicle setup. I havn't personally done all of them, and right now, I can't even drive my rig. Some of those trails are out near Talkeetna, Knick/Jim Creek is in Butte (just South Of Palmer), Gunsight Mtn. is west of Eureka maybe about 20-30 min.. I really would try to get a hold of Mark W @ Cruisers Only. You could try to PM him. He really knows where to go, and would probably be better able to point you in the right direction in terms of trails and conditions.

You might also want to check out McCarthy, the Kennicot Mine, and Wrangel St. Elias National Park and Preserve. The road sucks, but apparently there are some killer trout streams-I believe there is an article on Fish Alaska this month on the fishing there. The McCarthy Road is south of Glennallen by an hour I'd guess, then the road may take 1-3 hrs depending on conditions. But, IMO would be worth it to go out of your way some to check out the largest National Park in the U.S. Mt. Wragell is a Volcano, and there are some great 14-17,000' peaks there.

A cool way to go North from Anchorage toward Denali is to go north to Palmer/Wasilla and go to Hatcher's Pass. There's an old mine (Independence Mine/State Historic Park) http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/units/indmine.htm and you can actually drive across the pass. The road is the Willow Fishhook road and will take you to Willow, on the Parks Highway. You could then hit the mouth of Willow Creek along the Susitna River for Rainbows, and salmon, like Kings, Pinks, Silvers. Or, hit up Willow Creek near the highway, there are a couple of roads that you can take. Also, further North, you can catch and release grayling, and trout, at Montana Creek and Sheep Creek. In Wasilla, and Palmer, there are tons of little lakes where Pike are considered an invasive species because the were illegally introduced (in the 50's I believe) and are eating all the trout and salmon fry stocked by AKF&D so there's no limit on catch.

Nancy lake is a good pike lake, just outside of Wasilla, in Houston, AK (not TX where you're from!)

You should take your canoe out to Eklutna lake, it's just outside Anchorage on the way to Palmer/Wasilla, about 30 min. and the scenery is incomparable. It's one of my favorite quick places to get away to from Anchorage! You don't have to canoe to enjoy it, but it is awesome!

Let me know if I can be of any more help.
 
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Hi Blue phoenix,
when are you going to Alaska,
l am planing the same from Winnipeg,either in a HZJ77 or HDJ81.
Simon
 
Great thread. I am subscribing just for the route info (planning a similar trip in 1-3 years).

Only comment I have is to look at the Waeco/Dometic fridges. They run the danfoss compressor (what ARB just moved to.. essentially the same design as what Waeco has been using for a few years now), and are $100-200 cheaper than the Engel/ARB/Norcolds. Two dealers on ebay- one for Dometic, one for Waeco. Essentially the same fridges but prices will flux depending on the size you want. I would recommend either the 40L or 50L for your trip. You want to keep your weight as reasonable as you can.
 
Matt16- The plan for this trip is there is no plan. "Don't take the trip, let the trip take you", something I read in one of the issues of Overland Journal, is sort of the motto I am going by on this trip. The trip could take a month or two months, I don't know and I am not really constrained either.
As for winching, I mentioned in the first post about bringing a Pull-Pal. I know a winch will only be as good as my Pull-Pal in certain areas.

Good on you, that's the way to take a trip. I'm headed up to the Dempster Hwy this summer, so if you see an overloaded red 1990 4Runner trundling along, be sure to wave.
 
DYNMC1- You are a treasure trove of information. I'll have to make my way over to your neck of the woods to buy you a beer while I am up there!

Simonliew- I only have a tentative date of July for when I want to be going. I won't return from Afghanistan until May of next year, so it may be pushed back even further towards August, which I know is pushing me up against the first bouts of Alaskan winter weather. I have been told that Past September things get pretty gnarly up there.

Matt16- Im sure you'll stick out as much as me...I'll be sure to wave at all the Toyotas I see.
 
Well today is shopping day...I'm going around town buying my books and maps and don't forget Valentines! Thanks over and over.
 
You might see if you can get a hold of a copy of the DeLorme Alaska Atlas and Gazetteer. It's a large book full of Topo maps on the state of Alaska about 1:250,000 scale. They publish Atlases for other states too, so you might be familiar with the book already. It has a lot of info. on where to fish, hunt, camp, kayak, etc.,. I would check it against your GPS's info.

Here's a link to Amazon for the AK Atlas, and the Milepost: Amazon.com: alaska atlas and gazetteer

I just figured since you're doing your shopping, you might want to consider these.

IF you purchase the Atlas, just be careful with some of the info., in the Gazetteer as it may not be the most current. An example would be, my experience with the Atlas, and using it to find some land to buy out near Glenallen. The Richardson Highway that runs South from Glenallen to Valdez, was redone and moved about a mile west of it's previoius location, but the map in the Gazetteer did not reflect this change as per 1964 info. After going to the USGS store in Anchorage, I found a 1996 map that reflected the change. That was pretty frustrating...a story for another time.

So, it's a GREAT resource, just keep in mind, it might not reflect the most current data. Again, I would check it against your GPS info..

As far as information goes, I have a lot of first-hand experience researching land use issues, and expedition logistics both for my degree in Outdoor Studies (Alaska Pacific University , Anchorage), Guiding, and personal hunting, fishing, and wheeling trips.

I also have plenty of professional contacts for guides here in AK. for everything from hunting, fishing, skiing, paragliding,wheeling, sea kayaking, whitewater kayaking/rafting, packrafting, ice-climbing, mountaineering, or SCUBA-pretty much anything you can think of. These are folks I went to school with, or guides and business owners I've met along the way. Whatever I don't know, I can definitely find out, and help to point you in the right direction.

Oh, and I won't ever turn down a beer! The Moose's Tooth, or Humpy's are hangouts of local favorites! Moose's Tooth brews an outstanding IPA among others!
 
As far as eastern canada goes, do some research on route 389 from Baie Comeau, Quebec up into Labrador/Newfoundland. I've never been on it, but I hope to do it one day. Hopefully someone will chime in that may know more. If you can find it on the map you'll see how remote this drive is!

yep, that's the one! apparently there's a hyrdo plant up there somewhre that powers almost the entire eastern seaboard.

lol, on the map, it doesn't have a colour code for the terrain (just white), all crown land i guess. the roads barely show on some maps, but they're there.
 
My initial route takes me through Banff and Jasper, but after that I am just looking for any tidbits that might sway me one way or another.

if you end up through banff area, check out the columbia icefields. touristy area, but you can hike to the mouth of the glacier from the base where the iceflow pours through. took me about 1.5 hours to walk up one way. there's a huge 4x4 bus that takes tourists up (i mean monster truck size) cuz the hill is quite steep, but hikin up there is more fun...place is spectacular (i'll try and find a pic). can't wait to head back there this summer if things work out...

i think youll be fine with bear spray and a noise maker. tonnes of fishing in northern ontario, knock y'self out! (Canada holds the majority of the worlds fresh water in all it's lakes)

so what are your timelines? goin solo after the wife heads back?
 
Sounds like a great trip. I have a buddy from Ketchikan who I used to talk about driving these routes with- he drove down to work with his brother in Seattle during summers- he said his windsheild was toast every time so you might see what's availible to help this or plan on a new windsheild somewhere along the trip. I'm guessing the rocks will make soem nasty dings and dents as well. He also related that multi spares was essential as getting more than one blow out was very common.
 
ICOM IC-706MKIIG CB Radio

Um, hope you don't plan on talking to truckers with that - as far as I know that is a Ham band radio not a Citizens Band radio. (which some truckers do monitor) I would definitely suggest getting your Ham ticket, you can talk around the world very easily with it - and long distance communications can be somewhat critical where you are going!
 
apparently there's a hyrdo plant up there somewhre that powers almost the entire eastern seaboard.
Either Churchill Falls or the James Bay project ... big power output! ....
 
I wish I wasnt completely ADD and was able to read this thread all right now but I cant. I want to go to Alaska next summer too with my truck, I'll have to read up on everyones tips.
 
DYNMC1- I am very familiar with the Gazetteer...and some of its shortcomings here in Colorado. I use it as more of a large scale overlay of where I am at and where I am going since there is an endless amount of forest roads, trails, and paths here in Colorado.

Definitely planning on going through the ice fields and doing some exploring around there.

Matt K- I am planning on getting that 3M film, but (this is for everyone), can it really do that much to protect it? How thick is it? I guess it's a better insurance policy than nothing at all. I think I am also going to go with the Wrangler MTs for tires as they're pretty puncture resistant.
 
LoudLX- I am there with you on taking the time to read everything. There have been posts (like DMCs) that are good ones but take so long to read and my wife can only tolerate me being on for a couple hours!

Someone asked earlier about who I am taking with me. I think my wife has decided, if possible, that she is going to fly up and meet me in Fairbanks and spend a couple of weeks. I am considering my options for people to join me, but as you all know there aren't too many people able to take off from work for such a period of time.
 
MrMoMo- I got a good chastising from the great group of guys here about why I should get licensed on a HAM. My uncle has one so I am calling him this weekend to find out about getting licensed.

Now if you will all excuse me, I am taking my wife out tonight, as you should too! You guys have a good one. I'll post back up with some visual displays on the next post if I can sit down for more than five minutes!
 
Blue, the 3M stuff works amazing, they use it on the GT race cars to protect the lights from busting from debris on the track. I have it on the lights on my truck and on everything from the B-pillar forward on one of the other cars. I'd put it on my paint too on the LX but it wouldnt match my matte paint ;)
 
1LoudLX- I am having some trouble locating the film you're talking about online...I looked up the 3M protective film but nothing is turning up for that specific film. Just window tinting and paint protection.
 
IdahoDoug here on 'mud is a 3M dealer and sells the stuff if you want to contact him, I'm not sure if he does the precut stuff or not. I know he can hook you up though.

Or you can go to Paint Protection Film - XPEL Technologies Corp. which is where I got precut patterns for the hood/bumper/fender/door/rocker/lights/mirrors for the 911. Also got precuts from Xpel for the LX's headlights. Heres a thread from the hundy section from last week.
 
You want fuel capacity and self reliant camping. Those rock quarries on the side of the road make great camp sites at 2am when you finally figure out it isn't going to get any darker and your exhausted.

MT tires. Bull Bar. Think about your roof top tent, what will it be like after 5 straight days of rain - just in case.

You need to go to Atlin BC and spend a day or two and/or charter a house boat for fishing. Atlin is NE of Juneau about 120 air miles or so. There is unlimited rural exploring and fishing in that area.

Books on tape; beer

You are going to have a wonderful fun adventure. Bob
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