BJ60 part search help ? - and various other fixins...

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MrMoMo

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Folks, looking for some assistance here...

1985 BJ60 LG MK
JT3BJ60G5E0012727
857FB41K052H55F

In a post turbo install power fury last fall, I managed to push my 29 year old drivers side engine mount to the point of failure. When this happened, the massive amount of torque in the turbo'd 3B was unleashed and my fan found its way into the shroud. Needless to say, my fan is currently sans-blades...

Truck still ran fine, no overheating at all, but to be on the safe side - I'm wanting to put a replacement blade on. Figured i should also replace the engine mounts, so that has been done. While I was in there, I am also having the rad re-cored, it looked like it was about 33 seconds from catastrophic failure. Might as well do the hoses too. Since it was all apart (you know how it goes) I am also replacing the belts, and since I had the belts off, I spun the idler pulley, and holy crap that bearing is totally shot. Might as well re-build the power steering pump and replace the lines as well. Hey look, that intercooler should fit there....

So online I go to see what I can find. Rock Auto has been pretty good to me, the engine mounts worked nicely, so I figured I'd check if they had the bearing and fan.

They list two bearings for my year/engine, but before ordering, I decided to check the measurements, since they list two sizes. Well, guess what. Mine didn't match either one of them. Called up Canadian Bearing, and they had what I needed in stock for ~$15. Done, fits.... FYI, For me it was a 6302DU.

No listing for a fan blade, but I checked http://www.toyodiy.com and found the part number listing there for my year is 16361‑41070. This somewhat seems to match up, as I can still find 41070 on what remains of my fan. However, when I search this part number further, it seems that this blade fits the engines with no fan clutch, which does not look the same. For example, here;
http://www.kopex.com.tw/autoparts/fanblades/toyota7.htm

ToyoDIY also cross references this fan blade number to;
1990 - (no end date) FJ/FZJ/GRJ/HDJ/HJ/HZJ/KZJ/LJ/PZJ/RJ/VDJ7*

So one would think it to be easy to find. Other than Toyota ($$$$$) none of the local jobbers seem to be able to get this. (Or the rad hoses)

From the part number, and what I have seen online, it is a 410mm diameter fan with 7blades and 4 bolts. Of course, all the listings for the fan blades that LOOK like mine, have a part number like 16361-610xx, which says to me they would be too big...

Here is my concern... I'm hesitant to order any parts for my truck with this many mis-matches. I put my VIN in at ToyoDIY and it says no record found. (Huh?) I'm wondering if someone has swapped a different year engine into my truck, (where, under 2cm of hardened muck do I find the engine serial#, and would it do me any good?) For reference, I went out to my parts truck. It's an '85 and looks basically the same (clutch fan, same rad, same rad hoses) but all the searches I have been doing come back with the same results if I put the year in as '85!

I really don't want to pay $135 for a plastic fan blade, let alone if I can buy one one fleabay for $22 shipped. Worst case, I can pull the blade from my parts truck, but I'd rather keep that intact for a future project...

Thoughts?

And now a few pics to keep the "this thread is useless without pics" comments away...

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How the heck was this rad cooling anything, especially with no fan blades pulling air through it!!

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Strange...

When I look for a fan blade for a 1985 BJ60 I get 16361-47010 (not 41070)..

And this has 6 blades with OD 410mm

(Used on B, 2B, 13B, 14B and H engines as well .... depending on the type/model of vehicle and date of manufacture of course.)

:meh:

Edit: I found out the reason...... 47010 is the General market and 41070 is the American market

And I think the reason for this difference is because the 1985 American (North American?
) market version got the viscous coupling (fan clutch) whereas the General market version didn't ..
 
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Interesting indeed. American market is kind of strange, must be North American, and within that, the US didn't get these engines, so really just the Canadian Market. Unless of course it's the same unit as all the FJ60's have...

So everywhere else in the world the BJ60 didn't have the fan clutch? Very strange indeed.
 
Hey Mo,
I have a fan loose here. I have another spare in a running parts truck so I'd help you out by sending you my fan if you like. I have no idea what they're worth. Can you give me what it's worth plus the ride and I'll ship it to you?
I'll get you a picture.

Also, Dan at 4wheel in AB has replacement hose kits where you get all the hoses for 99bucks.
aaron
 
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Thanks Magnus, I'll have to look around a little to figure out what one is worth, if I can't locate a new one ill send you a PM. Thanks for the heads up on the hose kit, looks like a good one!

Started playing with intercooler placement while I wait for other bits to arrive!

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So, today was the day for the power steering pump re-build.

I had a hard time finding information on this as well, but did manage to come across a few other threads that I found really useful.

This one by ElliottB on the Rising Sun 4x4 club:
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=10268

And this one by PabloCruise here on Mud:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/co-wy-hors...conversion-fj40-while-keeping-air-pump-3.html

What I did find was that neither thread showed what became the most important part... The direction of the slippers (after they all fly out). PabloCruise mentions the importance of knowing the rotation, but I couldn't get reference from the photos there, so here I post one in hopes that someday it may help someone who was in my position! I was able to find a jpg of the FSM which is where I figured it out from...

**EDIT** don't copy my photo below!! Slippers appear to go the other way around!! (My steering currently does not power assist!)

http://www.villagetoyotaparts.com/s...key_make=1021&modelYear=1981&ukey_model=14410

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Decided to decode my VIN... In case anyone ever wondered what all those letters and numbers mean...

Let me know if I messed it up!

JT3BJ60G5E0012727

J = Japan
T = Toyota
3 = Multipurpose Passenger Vehicle (SUV)
B = B series Diesel engine
J = LandCruiser
6 = Series 60
0
G = chassis configuration (G trim)
5 = check digit
E = 1984
0 = plant, Japan
012727 = sequential serial number

So, why does ToyoDIY bring this up as a 1989?

How do I know if mine is pre September of '84... Or are they '85 after that?
 
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All cleaned up, painted and re-mounted. Just need to put the pulley back on.

Cleanest part of the engine now!!

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Decided to decode my VIN... In case anyone ever wondered what all those letters and numbers mean...

Let me know if I messed it up!

JT3BJ60G5EC012727

J = Japan
T = Toyota
3 = Multipurpose Passenger Vehicle (SUV)
B = B series Diesel engine
J = LandCruiser
6 = Series 60
0
G = chassis configuration (G trim)
5 = check digit
E = 1984
C = plant, Cambridge, Ontario.
012727 = sequential serial number

So, why does ToyoDIY bring this up as a 1989?

How do I know if mine is pre September of '84... Or are they '85 after that?

No Land Cruisers were ever built in Ontario.
 
No Land Cruisers were ever built in Ontario.


Only other option I see is that it is a "0" but what does that match up with? Or am I reading it completely wrong?

*edit* duh... I now see that #0-9 are Japan... So "0" makes sense!
 
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My understanding has always been that the frames were built at the Honsha plant and trucked cross town to the Yoshiwara Plant for final assy.

(formerly of Arakawa Auto Body, then ARACO, then Toyota Auto Body, which was recently subsumed into Toyota and is a wholly owned subsidiary). This corresponds to "A11" internal plant designation that is found on your data plate.

:cheers:
 
So, why does ToyoDIY bring this up as a 1989?

How do I know if mine is pre September of '84... Or are they '85 after that?

So, scratch that... Looks like everything comes up fine now! Now I can rest easily knowing I'm in the early '84 category!

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Ok, so I'm starting to wrap things up, but need a few little bits. I've made new steering lines to run from the pump to the box and back, but it appears that the fitting I got to adapt for the lines, works on the pressure side, but not on the return side.

The pump high-pressure, and the box high-pressure are 16x1.5 fittings, but the return is larger... Anyone know what it is?

I used these adaptors to go to my pressure side hose:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Earls/361/9919DFJ/10002/-1?parentProductId=758331

I ordered a 3rd, but it definitely does not fit the return line out of the steering box. Comparing the fitting to the old pressure and return lines, it does appear that there is a difference in size.
 
So, today was the day for the power steering pump re-build.

I had a hard time finding information on this as well, but did manage to come across a few other threads that I found really useful.

This one by ElliottB on the Rising Sun 4x4 club:
http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=10268

And this one by PabloCruise here on Mud:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/co-wy-hors...conversion-fj40-while-keeping-air-pump-3.html

What I did find was that neither thread showed what became the most important part... The direction of the slippers (after they all fly out). PabloCruise mentions the importance of knowing the rotation, but I couldn't get reference from the photos there, so here I post one in hopes that someday it may help someone who was in my position! I was able to find a jpg of the FSM which is where I figured it out from...

**EDIT** don't copy my photo below!! Slippers appear to go the other way around!! (My steering currently does not power assist!)

http://www.villagetoyotaparts.com/s...key_make=1021&modelYear=1981&ukey_model=14410

Same happened to me here, MY PICTURE IS WRONG, make them go the other way!


Post 47 of PabloCruise shows his slippers are backwards from our first try.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/co-wy-hors...conversion-fj40-while-keeping-air-pump-3.html

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YIKES!!!

Just ripped my pump apart for the second time, and found shrapnel in the discharge port.... Two of my wipers split in half and fed themselves through the pump!

Called Toyota and the slippers appear to be discontinued. Not only that, there are a bunch of pump styles!! My 84 is a different pump from my 85 parts truck, which is different from my wife's 85 BJ 70..

LUCKILY, I have a good friend who also has an '84, and a parts truck, and his spare pump matches. So, now it's just a matter of tracking down one to replace the guts in mine so he can have his spare back!!

Tearing down pump #2 to replace the seals, then HOPEFULLY I can have my power steering back!!
**edit --> results with pics next page!**
 
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