BJ56 Does it exist?

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Exiled said:
Can you clarify, Michael? Is it the body itself? I thought the FJ56 just had minor update changes, are you sure there's two different bodies? I can't find reference to that in any of my brochures, and I have a late model Japanese FJ55 brochure (lists the FJ55, BTW, not the FJ56).


According to my source book the overall dimensions are different on the FJ56V

FJ55 FJ56

Length 4675 4675
Width 1690 1735
Height 1960 1865

These are all in MM

I agree the body does not look different with the exception of the tall hood to handle the aircleaner for the 2F (sits on top of valve cover) F motor had can next to block like 70 series, 42 series and 80 series. Hope that explains it.

Cheers,

Michael
 
were is the width takin from? body or axle or ?


tlcruiserman said:
According to my source book the overall dimensions are different on the FJ56V

FJ55 FJ56

Length 4675 4675
Width 1690 1735
Height 1960 1865

These are all in MM

I agree the body does not look different with the exception of the tall hood to handle the aircleaner for the 2F (sits on top of valve cover) F motor had can next to block like 70 series, 42 series and 80 series. Hope that explains it.

Cheers,

Michael
 
australian 2f's had the air cleaner next t othe block
 
Landpimp said:
were is the width takin from? body or axle or ?

Hey LP,

Not sure where it is taken from all it states is "overall" width, for that matter all the figures were "overall".

Michael
 
bad_religion_au said:
australian 2f's had the air cleaner next t othe block

Was that on all of them, up to 1980 or so or was that just on the 40 series?

Thanks,

Michael
 
tlcruiserman said:
Was that on all of them, up to 1980 or so or was that just on the 40 series?

Thanks,

Michael

the 1978 Fj55 i bought as a wreck had this, as did a friends 1979 55 series. can't say about 1980.
 
Hello,

From what I understand then, one diff between a 55 and a 56 is the position of the taillights? If it has the tailights in different position and diff type (from factory), then it is a 56 right?
 
QUOTE Crushers"accordign to this link there never was a BJ55 offered:
http://toyota.mnc.ru/framno/longindex.html
from what i was told this was copied from the original Toyota frame number production list...
there are those that wish there was a production BJ55, the ever elusive, none existing unit that Santa Clause must drive when in Aussiland...
;^)
cheers
Wayne"QUOTE

Im not concerned about proving a diesel 55 existed ,just looking for a definitve answer.
My French link must have also been copied from a factory list at some time and is as valid as your Russian one until proven otherwise
 
There are references to the BJ56 on Rob Mullen's TLC FAQ and on Damian Lopes's page
Both made mention they are 14B powered but I don't think these Bandys have a 55 series body.

The Bandeirante is not considered by Toyota Japan to be a pure Toyota and not usually included in their production figures.

Dave
 
Toyota in Brazil pretty did what they wanted. If I remember correctly the LC was shipped like a kit then put together in Brazil using their choice of drivetrain which for a long time was a Mercedes deisel. The 55 series sold in Brazil and in some of South America are not the same FJ55/56 we know. It is a different body style.

I like using this japanese pig owners website for some good information. It is my understanding the 55 series had a 2B diesel offered but very few were sold. Most likely they went to military and commercial/industrial use.

http://a-tsuri.hp.infoseek.co.jp/fj55v.html

this page can translate the information.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
 
I think(and I should dig out my Bandi lit)the 50 series in Brazil was a longer 40 series like a 43-ish.

I dont think there was a 55 like we have in Brazil.

I think by the early 60's Brazil was making the Bandi with 100% local content(beside Benz motor) no knock down kits came in(they did in the early years)


I used Mozila to translate, this is what is said on one page, made me laugh :)

The FJ55V it rusts and drops (the 1)

The FJ55V it rusts and drops (the 2)

The FJ55V it rusts and drops (the 3)

The FJ55V it rusts and drops (the 4)

The FJ55V it rusts and drops (the paint compilation)

MiniPigg said:
Toyota in Brazil pretty did what they wanted. If I remember correctly the LC was shipped like a kit then put together in Brazil using their choice of drivetrain which for a long time was a Mercedes deisel. The 55 series sold in Brazil and in some of South America are not the same FJ55/56 we know. It is a different body style.

I like using this japanese pig owners website for some good information. It is my understanding the 55 series had a 2B diesel offered but very few were sold. Most likely they went to military and commercial/industrial use.

http://a-tsuri.hp.infoseek.co.jp/fj55v.html

this page can translate the information.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
 
Interesting link, MiniPigg. Thanks.

Landpimp, please post scans of your Bandy literature if you can.

Dave
 
yes.. the 55 series in Brazil and in much of South America looks nothing like the FJ55 we know and love. When it comes to vehicles being manufacture in Brazil, the brazilians make it pretty much how they want it. When I was heavy into aircooled Vdubs Brazil was one of the places we looked for unique vehicles. Like the Puma.

Here is a link that I like reading at times.

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/2000/000110-Bandeirante.html

and one of my all time favorites that i have posted before.

http://www.brian894x4.com/LCBandeirante.html
 
Surprized no one has pointed out the striking similarities to the Mercedes Benz G-wagen or at least that is what he was trying to go for. This is where the rear doors come in, look at the rear rain gutter roof line, and it almost looks like the roof was pitched forward to make the windshield angle steeper and more boxy like a G-wagen? Then the color and body features including running boards. Definetely funky indeed with lots of labor put into it...

tlc_commando_3.jpg
 
Im lost... then again thats no surprise. The rear doors are FJ55 not Gwagen. The cargo doors are not from any Gwagen Ive seen. The roof line... now that looks like mercedes... but the edge of the rain gutter on the pig is right there anyway.
 
those dont look like any 55 rear ambulance doors i have seen, 55's have a 50/50 split, this one is 30/60-ish split.

MiniPigg said:
Im lost... then again thats no surprise. The rear doors are FJ55 not Gwagen. The cargo doors are not from any Gwagen Ive seen. The roof line... now that looks like mercedes... but the edge of the rain gutter on the pig is right there anyway.
 
yeah... i know the rear cargo doors arent from a FJ55 i just didnt complete my sentence that included them with the rear passenger doors.. They can maybe be from a later series cruiser like a 70 series?
 

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