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Using the royal purple is not what will or may void the warranty. Its going 12 to 14k between changes that can get you in trouble. If the truck has an issue that is oil related as in wear on the engine or build up that can be possibly linked to the oil change routine then they can decide not to cover the repair. They cant void the entire warranty, just decide not to pay for a certain item they deam is related to the oil change proceedure. In other words they cant decide to not fix your broken axle because you used royal purple and went 12k between changes. That is why the oil manufactures tell you to use the recommended mileage on changes. I use the Royal purple and am happy with it. I let it go 12k but change the oil filter every 6k
 
Any oil change is better than no oil change, so if you want to use Royal Purple, go ahead. It will work fine, but then so will any number of lubes.

There is no science to say one synthetic is better than another, though most experience and long term results have been with Mobil1. They have the biggest market share, the best availability, and the biggest engineering department by far.

Like Amsoil, RP quotes lube qualities that may or may not be relevant to long term durability. In my view they are the new kids on the block with a stupid name, and therefore, are as yet, unworthy.

Me personally, I like Mobil1, not for any scientific reason, or because it runs 4 degrees cooler but because I've used it since 1984 and my cars have always gone to high miles with little wear. They have earned my business. Motor oil, gear oil, grease, ATF, I like it all. Just remember, that's opinion, not science.

Do some reading on Bobistheoilguy.com to get a perspective on all of the brand fights. My basic view-they are all good, and in most cases non-synthetics are just as good and cheaper. The key to longevity is having a maintanence interval and sticking to it, not exactly what you use.

I'm thinking that FJCs are built like other Toyotas and will run to very high mileage with just the routine changes prescribed by Toyota, so what oil to use is not a massively hard decision.
 
REKCUT said:
Using the royal purple is not what will or may void the warranty. Its going 12 to 14k between changes that can get you in trouble. If the truck has an issue that is oil related as in wear on the engine or build up that can be possibly linked to the oil change routine then they can decide not to cover the repair. They cant void the entire warranty, just decide not to pay for a certain item they deam is related to the oil change proceedure. In other words they cant decide to not fix your broken axle because you used royal purple and went 12k between changes. That is why the oil manufactures tell you to use the recommended mileage on changes. I use the Royal purple and am happy with it. I let it go 12k but change the oil filter every 6k
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BUT they CAN easily void a warranty if you used a lubricant NOT APPROVED by Toyota (like regular AT fluid in the AT of the Cruiser as a drastic example). Using non-approved viscosities and GL ratings would likely cause warranty problems as well.


BTW-Anyone know what makes it purple? Not a real macho-manly truck kinda colour!~
 
They can not void a warranty just for using something. There is no warranty police that go around looking at what is inside of toyota trucks. They can void a warranty repair if they deam the failure is caused by something you did that was not approved but then only on the item it effect. They cant void the entire trucks warranty. If you dont change your oil for the life of the warranty and the engine locks they can choose not to fix the engine. IF you choose to not put oil in the truck and drive it on beer they can choose to not fix the engine problems related to putting beer in it. If you choose to put beer in the engine instead of oil and the window regulator quits or the rear end locks up the still have to fix that problem because its not related to the beer in the engine.

A good example of this is the CHIPS they install in the diesel trucks to get more power. These have caused many of the new Ford, Chevy, and Dodge truck diesel engines to blow. The big three have been refusing to pay for these problems but they still have to fix other non related problems on the trucks even if it has a programmer attached.
 
NYCTRD said:
BUT they CAN easily void a warranty if you used a lubricant NOT APPROVED by Toyota (like regular AT fluid in the AT of the Cruiser as a drastic example). Using non-approved viscosities and GL ratings would likely cause warranty problems as well.


BTW-Anyone know what makes it purple? Not a real macho-manly truck kinda colour!~
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Purple is technically one of the most "Royal" colors. It's supposed to be a color of high respect...not viewed as so these days I guess. It's Purple to signify "Royality" but anyway, the dealer voiding this is iffy...technically, they could say, this messed this up and this is why, then walk away. And it would be up to you to PROVE them wrong, after they claim they have PROVED you wrong. This means bringing in a lawyer. It can get VERY complicated VERY quickly. I believe their synthetic additive is what makes it purple, not sure why, nor do I care to call 'em and ask :-P
 
Brock said:
Go here A Businessperson's Guide to Federal Warranty Law pay attention to Magnuson Moss Act.
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That explains the law, yes, but there can be extenuating circumstances. Say your blow out a rear diff, they can claim it was by off-road use, you tell them to prove it...they can prove it anyway they want, be it keeping your vehicle for two weeks claiming they are "fully checking it" in hopes of getting you to give up, or saying ok, we'll pay for it right there. Dealerships are sneaky, and they can, and generally will do anything they can to avoid a hefty "on the house" repair bill. And the way they see it, is they have straight out told you "This is what happened, this is why" they might view that as the PROOF, now how exactly do you go about proving them wrong without shelling out $$$ for a lawyer? It's not as simple as some people are led to believe.
 
yeah but the question was will Synthetics allow them to void your warranty. Not whether offroad use or abuse would void a specific portion.

i was sharing information as many still believe a dealership can legally void your entire warranty or part of it just because you admit or they find aftermarket materials in or on your vehicle.

they cannot. THEY have to prove it was the cause of the failure and that it would not have happened if using approved materials.

Many dealers either are not aware of this or refuse to accept it as most customers dont know and will just do what they are told and accept the responsibility of paying for it. The more informed customer will usually take it up the manager chain or even to corporate level... Even getting the manufacturer of the aftermarket part involved can help as they do not want to lose business because dealers would rather you buy their parts than aftermarket.

toyota would have a hard row to hoe...as they are routinely installing aftermarket suspensions, hitches, etc on offroad vehicles to get their business and to support the owners. that in itself could be argued as acceptance and approval by toyota as a whole. I mean, the Toyota Trails Team vehicles have suspension lifts, aftermarket bumpers, tires of 33" or higher..............and they get wheeled much more severely than I would ever do myself. That in itself is a testament of how corporate Toyota feels. The difference is warranty work labor is ate by the dealer I was told...they only get reimbursed for the parts they use. That is my understanding at least.....and that with 2cents will not buy a damn thing these days. LOL
 
Oh. Well if that's the question then no. If it is changed out at the recommended times, done right, no way they can void it. Remember. Toyota PUT full synthetic in mine at 4k, at least for me, it's impossible for them to void my warranty because of synthetic :-P
 
Correct, they cant void it for synthetic, but can if you go beyond their recommended time frame and there is a question on what caused it they can choose to not pay for that problem. Most dealership now offer synthetic.
 
All I was saying was if you use an improper lubricant, they can void the warranty repair on the unit affected. I didn't mean void the entire warranty!

I actually had the dealership do the first rear diff oil change so they'd see the dark black oem oil and special metal shaving additives.

I brought the royal purple and the tech wanted to make sure it was approved by toyota before they used it (translation: cover thy assse)

When they saw how black (translated: overheated) the diff oil was and the metal shavings, they didn't charge me labor (I was there getting one of my first year free oil changes).

Royal Purple (3 quarts) $12

Dealer documenting crappy rear end: priceless

BTW-I'm aware of the MARKETING reasons behind the name & colour "royal purple" (and it's medieval origins), I just wanted to know if a beneficial additive caused the purple colour, or if it's food colouring!

L8tr
 
nice dog ....Shorthair or Kurzhaar? I had one for years and had to put him down when I lived in Maryland. Great dog...and loved to hunt anything.
 
REKCUT said:
Correct, they cant void it for synthetic, but can if you go beyond their recommended time frame and there is a question on what caused it they can choose to not pay for that problem. Most dealership now offer synthetic.
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I saw this thread and said to myself, "self, if REKCUT isn't contributing to this discussion then self should shoot self in the head"!!

I know Rekcut uses it, and based off what he told (educated may be a better verb) me, and a little research on my own it was a very very simple decision to change to RP. Since you can find RP in every stealership parts shop, and everyone one of your service advisers promote it...then I think its safe to assume you will not void warranty. Just mind the manual on how often you should change. Also my understanding is that the 08 come with this fluid already in it...the 07's did not. I noticed better performance all around, and I changed out front and rear diffs, transfer case, and Man Trans. gonna use it on the next oil changed as well. Gear oil, like gas, or any other fluid is the life blood of your truck. Spend the few extra dollars, your truck will last longer and thank you for it (i have actually heard my truck "thank" me:hhmm:).

was at the dealership the other day and ol' boy brough his 97LC for an oil change. Showed me the odometer....freakin 471k miles on it. he uses RP...I would have to say he got his money worth all around, 30 times over!! i love seeing stuff like that, and he takes it offroad.

also those worried about the price, and we all know the dealership charges more than anywhere else. just give them your TLCA member number which should be good for 30% off the price. This makes it cheaper than if you went to autozone or pepboys or whatever local shop you have in town to get the stuff. also don't know if its a coinicidence, but the dealershop has the pointed top bottle...all the other places have the reg bottle. pointed=easer to get into small places and flip the bottle. like i said, just what i saw. im sure toyota is not the only place that has that style bottle.

VIVA ROYAL PURPLE..make the switch and thank yourself that you did.
 
I've been using synthetics exclusively since 1984. I've used Castrol (when it first came out), Mobil1 for most of that time, Redline and now Amsoil synthetics.

Never had any leaks in any of the vehicles. Even changed one over at 109,000 miles.

I totally disagree that there is no benefit to changing over an older vehicle that has been on a steady diet of dino for years to synthetic.

The synthetic will clean the engine out very well. It will free up the rings if they are stuck and restore some compression and even reduce oil consumption if that is an issue. It will let the engine handle very cold temps and very high temps far better than dino.

I've never seen a measurable increase in mpg on any vehicle that I run synthetic. Will it increase HP/TQ, I don't know and I don't care. I use synthetics for the reasons I stated above and use them in everything (diesel tractors, lawn mowers, riders and push, chippers, shredders, snowblowers, etc... I mean everything.) I just changed over a 16 year old lawn mower to synthetic. It will clean the rings and bring back the compression, reduce oil use and make it easier to start.

So, for the reasons I stated above. I must disagree, based on 24 years of real world experience in varying climates in various pieces of equipment with various oils.

DEWFPO
 
FJ40 MNTCRZR said:
Thanks ,,

German Shorthair ... Great dog, smart a he$$
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yeah their intelligence and curiosity along with prey drive make them difficult for those that dont understand them or have the knowledge to train them and handle them properly. my wife has a sweet bullmastiff as house dog but looking forward to getting another shorthair or maybe a pudelpointer and getting back into hunting more like I used to before I retired from military and started my second career. LOL

good luck....
 
On the RP

I was at a truck show this weekend and stumbled onto a Royal Purple booth. I started talking to the guy, and man did he like to talk. He explained why Toyota picked them to for their dealership parts stores. Evidently it went back from all their work on aircraft, nascar, indy and dragster engines. There were a lot more but I forgot. He also stressed that it is a true sythetic not a mix. Said most moble 1's are true, but some are mixes his point was to make sure. He didn't knock any of them, and said M1 was very good...but obv more expensive. best guess is you are helping pay for their advertisements?!!?

THE most interesting part of his spill didn't have to do with RP, but with "TRUFILTER". Have you guys heard of these, and are they any good? Its the filter they plug, and its a one time cleanable filter. Take if off and clean it whenever you want. He also said the filter goes with you on each car purchase. Call trufilter up and let them know what you bought and they will send you the new seal that fits your new vehicle. Any thoughts?
 
Lol I was just argueing with someone over Trufilter. It's a stainless-steel mesh media cleanable filter. Seems cool, but there isn't much data on how it compares to higher-end synthetic replaceable filters, it only compares itself against the "norm" aka Paper Filters. Once the proven data is out, I'll prob buy one. I'm suprised K&N isn't making one...it seems like something they would jump at.
 
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