65 Heater questions

[avicenna110]

Hi all,

Do the early heaters come with a pull cable operated valves or just manual ones? Mine is removed so I’m trying to figure out how to make is stock or at least close. If anyone has pictures that would be great. I saw an earlier post about a Napa valve that’s close to Toyota, looks like this:

How does it get attached to the firewall? Here are some pics of my setup with a 350 SBC.

 

[ToyotaMatt]

you have a NON-OEM TOYOTA Engine ?


how are you going to make it stock

 

[avicenna110]

you have a NON-OEM TOYOTA Engine ?


how are you going to make it stock

Turning it stock one thing at a time. Found a 65 engine not too long ago. That’s the long term project if I can restore the F engine. But starting with simpler things for now I wanted to restore the heater and put the right valve at the firewall.

 

[ToyotaMatt]

Turning it stock one thing at a time. Found a 65 engine not too long ago. That’s the long term project if I can restore the F engine. But starting with simpler things for now I wanted to restore the heater and put the right valve at the firewall.

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oh , ok .........

well , why did you not just come out with your full OEM plans and details to begin with brother



- here you go ,

- that older shut off valve is NOT a EASY thing to come by

- but this later concept is ......

- i have period correct WATER VALVE CABLES TOO if you need one

Genuine OEM NipponDenso TOYOTA Land Cruiser Valve Assy. Heater Water Control Install KIT Fits: 9/73-10/85 FJ40 FJ45 FJ43 ( Includes OEM Clamps , Mounting Hardware and Rubber Hose Too ! ) - VintageTEqParts.com

- Genuine OEM NipponDenso TOYOTA Genuine Parts - Land Cruiser - Valve Assy. Heater Water Control - Install KIT - ...

vintageteqparts.com

 

[Skreddy]

I used that Napa variant you linked on my 1970. Not 100% correct but looks the part and functions fine. You can see it here (though mounted sideways as I needed to get tricky with having the sniper temp sensor as well).

 

[avicenna110]

oh , ok .........

well , why did you not just come out with your full OEM plans and details to begin with brother



- here you go ,

- that older shut off valve is NOT a EASY thing to come by

- but this later concept is ......

- i have period correct WATER VALVE CABLES TOO if you need one

Genuine OEM NipponDenso TOYOTA Land Cruiser Valve Assy. Heater Water Control Install KIT Fits: 9/73-10/85 FJ40 FJ45 FJ43 ( Includes OEM Clamps , Mounting Hardware and Rubber Hose Too ! ) - VintageTEqParts.com

- Genuine OEM NipponDenso TOYOTA Genuine Parts - Land Cruiser - Valve Assy. Heater Water Control - Install KIT - ...

vintageteqparts.com

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I used that Napa variant you linked on my 1970. Not 100% correct but looks the part and functions fine. You can see it here (though mounted sideways as I needed to get tricky with having the sniper temp sensor as well).
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Got it. I think I misunderstood, the Napa valve gets attached to the block ( which I don’t have on the car yet) . On my 77 I have the valve similar to the one @ToyotaMatt has, which is attached to the firewall. My question is what’s the original part/mechanism that’s near the firewall. Is it just hoses going in, or a 90 degree elbow? It’s in the area shown below ( not my car)

 

[ToyotaMatt]

Got it. I think I misunderstood, the Napa valve gets attached to the block ( which I don’t have on the car yet) . On my 77 I have the valve similar to the one @ToyotaMatt has, which is attached to the firewall. My question is what’s the original part/mechanism that’s near the firewall. Is it just hoses going in, or a 90 degree elbow? It’s in the area shown below ( not my car)

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This is what you seek

 

[Living in the Past]

Answer to the pull cable question it was 9/73 (74 model) when the cable started. Part of that upgrade was a down grade of the rear heater blower running on
high speed of the front heater blower switch. Perferred rear heater having it's own heater switch.

 

[avicenna110]

This is what you seek


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Thanks @ToyotaMatt !
Do you carry it, and the grommets?

 

[ToyotaMatt]

Thanks @ToyotaMatt !
Do you carry it, and the grommets?

this is what you refer to as far as a grommet ?


- remember one important TECH. DETAIL here :

- u DO NOT need the water control valve cable right away , you CAN simply operate it by hand from in the engine bay as a manual ON / OFF shut off , it has built in resistance to keep it SHUT UP TIGHT as desired ......

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OEM TOYOTA Land Cruiser Firewall Heater Lines PLUG Hole BODY Grommet FJ40 FJ45 FJ43 part # 90480-01167 Fits 1962-10/85 - VintageTEqParts.com

- OEM TOYOTA Land Cruiser - Firewall Heater Lines PLUG Hole BODY Grommet - FJ40 FJ45 FJ43 - OEM part...

vintageteqparts.com

Fully Restored WARM PULL Cable assy. & KNOB Fits 9/73-1984 40 Series - VintageTEqParts.com

Fully Restored WARM PULL Cable Assy.& KNOB Fits 9/73-1984 40 Series

vintageteqparts.com

 

[Wadesters]

I used that Napa variant you linked on my 1970. Not 100% correct but looks the part and functions fine. You can see it here (though mounted sideways as I needed to get tricky with having the sniper temp sensor as well).
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Old Post but can anyone tell me where this shut off valve came from? I have the part that screws into block.

 

[Skreddy]

Old Post but can anyone tell me where this shut off valve came from? I have the part that screws into block.

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Amazon. For the tee and Napa for the actual valve.

 

[Wadesters]

Just received this valve from Amazon. The thread pitch is different. I went to Napa as other have suggested. They will special order BK6601402 but is $44 with a no return.
Can anyone confirm the thread pitch on the Napa part is correct? @cppilot

Thank you

 

[cppilot]

Not sure on the pitch of the one you have.

 

[cppilot]

Matt has this one on his site. He may be able to help with pitch questions.

 

[Wadesters]

Thanks! Sure looks the same as the new one I have but don't want to force it.

 

[avicenna110]

Is the Amazon one the Four Season 84703 valve? I bought the same one for my ‘77 2F engine, along with this adapter

Anderson Metals 56110-0806 Brass Pipe Fitting, Hex Bushing, 1/2" NPT Female Pipe x 3/8" NPT Male Pipe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005L90NA2?tag=ihco-20

It was suggested in another thread by someone else for a 2F engine.

 

[avicenna110]

I’m away till next week but if you’d like I can check the thread pitch fitment on my 65 F engine as well.

 

[Wadesters]

Yes, it's the Four Season 84703. So if I read you correctly I need the adapter.

 

[avicenna110]

@Wadesters here is the thread that directed me to what I got: Heater Valve (Early FJ40) - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/heater-valve-early-fj40.407512/

The four season one is also 3/8 NPT so the adapter will work. The Napa one needs an adapter too btw.