1997 80's Electric seat repair

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I have the new gears to install but I am worried about the motor. The Lumbar button works fine. The seat cushion/height control works fine. The Seat Back Control and the seat position (forward and backward) does not work. Been researching past threads. Do I need to replace the entire control panel? or is that something that I would have to take a look at when the seat is taken a part? Does actual motor need to be replaced?
 
Subscribed. My passenger seat just got stuck in the forward most position.

I can only have midgets as passengers now.
 
I dont hear the motor working when I move it forward or backward, nor do I hear the motor working when I move the seat control switch
 
Try pushing both the buttons you see in the pic simultaneously numerous times and it may free up. I had this same issue, when I first got my 80 the seat got put all the way back on a visit to the stealership. I just by dumb Irish luck was pushing the buttons together and the seat just started moving forward. My seat will still not move forward if I just push one button, but if I push both, it works fine. Hope that helps.

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I think there is a few threads concerning this. Search again.

Try "seat" and "gears"
 
Try pushing both the buttons you see in the pic simultaneously numerous times and it may free up. I had this same issue, when I first got my 80 the seat got put all the way back on a visit to the stealership. I just by dumb Irish luck was pushing the buttons together and the seat just started moving forward. My seat will still not move forward if I just push one button, but if I push both, it works fine. Hope that helps.

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Thanks, I tried that and did not work
 
My seats back and forward weren’t working. I could hear the motor click for a fraction of a second but no movement. Bought the new gears and took it all apart. The gear assemblies were all froze up where the grease had dried out and hardened so the metal shaft the plastic gears go on, would not rotate in the plastic housing. Cleaned it all up, regreased everything and installed the new plastic gears and now the seat run back and forth fine.
 
As I just did this and also talked to Gamiviti a bit about it I'll give my input:
If everything works but you don't have forward and backward then it's most likely the plastic gear.

WARNING! This will break the gears even if they are not already!
If you're prepared to fix this anyway, lift the front of the seat all the way up and take the two screws out of the little decorative front panel and take that off. You will see 2 nuts, one on each side. These are on the end of the threaded rods that run through the motor. If your gears are stripped then you can turn these (like a 1/8 to a 1/4 turn a side back and forth) and it will move the seat forward and backward manually. HOWEVER! If you do this, THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY STRIP OUT THE GEARS.
I have seen several videos online where people demonstrate this to manually move the seat when it doesn't move, and it will, but this will strip out whatever is remaining of your stripped gears completely. But it does let you at least move the seat into a position and leave it there if you end up having a bad motor or switch that you're unwilling or unable to fix.
That said, if you do this, then it will free up the little worm gear end (which is metal) and then you should be able to push the button and hear it engage. If you hear the solenoid engage then I'd just proceed with the gear replacement as you have a high change of a 100% fix with new gears. If you don't hear it engage AT ALL then you either have a switch or motor problem which is above my pay grade at the moment.

I had mentioned that the disassembly/reassembly video was a little misleading in that if you perform the steps I mentioned even by accident (for instance if you just quickly install the gears with a small impact like I did the first time) you will ruin the NEW gears. The design of the mechanism seems VERY engineered to make those plastic gears be the absolute point of failure and be a relatively inexpensive replacement part.

That said, when assembling the bottom of the seat I would suggest removing the small plastic piece that holds in the threaded rails on the bottom of the seat (2 phillips screws) and removing the entire assembly. Once you're done repairing the gears, reinstall everything in this order:
1) Install washer on threaded shaft, install motor (or secondary gear mechanism) onto shaft while they are completely separate from each other, install washer and lock nut, tighten nut.
2) Install the interconnecting shaft between the motor and the secondary gear mechanism.
3) Spin the rail connector plates to the same position.
4) Put the entire, complete assembly into position and replace the rear plastic connectors on the rails.
5) Replace the 4 front mounting screws.
 
I got lucky on my passenger seat found it didn’t work on the forward / backwards function when I purchased it. When I was cleaning I found the little white threaded plug under the seat. Slapped it back in with some light grease smooshed into the cavity then rethreaded the cap in and viola working seat.
 
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