questions on side rails for 91 and 97
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You are a brave person to post pictures of CHROME accessories on thes message board!! The two sites I would recommend and probably alot of other people too are:
www.hannaquality.com and
www.sleeoffroad.com
You will probably have to make a request for a pair to fit a 92, but those are the two people I would recoommend. I myself have Hanna's sliders on my 97. Hanna is here in San Luis Obispo area, and Slee is in Colorado.
www.hannaquality.com and
www.sleeoffroad.com
You will probably have to make a request for a pair to fit a 92, but those are the two people I would recoommend. I myself have Hanna's sliders on my 97. Hanna is here in San Luis Obispo area, and Slee is in Colorado.
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I just realized, maybe chrome is what you want and maybe you don't intend to use them for off-roading. I apologize, but it's just a natural instinct.
I'm afraid you're not going to get a lot of positive feedback on chrome side steps here. It's cool if that's your gig, but many of us here are pretty much form follows function guys and would rather have an ugly thing that works over bling that would be crushed under any stress.
Now for a Hijack!
We spent a bunch of time friday and Saturday building Mr. bryan's new sliders. We put a bump out in the rear like All Pro Offroad's 4Skinner sliders. http://www.allprooffroad.com/trailarmor.htm
Works freaking great! Not only does it bump the rear end away from an obsticle, but you can hook 'em intentially on a tree and pivot right around where it is too tight to properly position your tail. i watched Bryan do just that and then spent 15 mins going back and forth in a rut trying to get my back end over.
My sliders will be modified just as soon as my next steel order.
JD2 benders are kitten killers.
Now for a Hijack!
We spent a bunch of time friday and Saturday building Mr. bryan's new sliders. We put a bump out in the rear like All Pro Offroad's 4Skinner sliders. http://www.allprooffroad.com/trailarmor.htm
Works freaking great! Not only does it bump the rear end away from an obsticle, but you can hook 'em intentially on a tree and pivot right around where it is too tight to properly position your tail. i watched Bryan do just that and then spent 15 mins going back and forth in a rut trying to get my back end over.
My sliders will be modified just as soon as my next steel order.
JD2 benders are kitten killers.
OneSikKruizer said:...if i am correct, arent the bodies the same? well here is the parts that i am concerned with....QUOTE]
Bodies are the same...some parts are routed differently underneath -- i.e. along the frame differently from 91-92, 93-94, and 95-97. That's probably why they specify that it'll only fit a certain model year range.
That said, go for functional sliders before what you posted there. The chrome nerf bars you're considering will not hold up off road.
Either Hanna's or Slee's will work.
Here is what will happen if you take those offroad and they hit terrafirma. The said terrafirma will exzert the force of the earth on said side bar. As said bar is weak and feeble and is closer to terrafirma than a hanna or slee product and definitely closer than cruiser sans bar or running boards, you will experience large pain in wallet to fix rockers. Far more $$$$ than either slee or hanna. In other words it will cave in at slightest pressure. Confucious say go here and laugh at terrafirma. http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/80_sliders.htm . The pics of real world use show the shtick. I know the chromies would not hold the weight of a cruiser
Cheers,
Sean
Cheers,
Sean
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Sikko,
In your first round of posts a few weeks ago you said your plans were to use the truck off-road and that you had some 36" tyres waiting to be mounted.
The above step rails are inappropriate for a trail rig and you'll regret that purchase if you truly plan to use the truck off-road as you've said before.
Look in the reader's rides for the way an 80 Series Land Cruiser should be outfitted for off-road enjoyment. Manik brush guards, tail light guards, and chrome steps are for the mall cruisers.... not that there's anything wrong with that if that's your plan.
-B-
In your first round of posts a few weeks ago you said your plans were to use the truck off-road and that you had some 36" tyres waiting to be mounted.
The above step rails are inappropriate for a trail rig and you'll regret that purchase if you truly plan to use the truck off-road as you've said before.
Look in the reader's rides for the way an 80 Series Land Cruiser should be outfitted for off-road enjoyment. Manik brush guards, tail light guards, and chrome steps are for the mall cruisers.... not that there's anything wrong with that if that's your plan.
-B-
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We didn't take pics as we were building. I'll PM Bryan to see if he's got some input.
basically what they are is 2x4 x 3/16 x whatever the length of the rockers are. I think Bryan ordered 10 feet for two. The side bars are 1.5x.125 tube. We bent the front edge to make the outside edge of the bar about 5.5 from the edge of the 2x4, but that would really depend on where you put the 2x4. basically, its about the width of the tube out from the tires. about where the back door starts we bent the tube out 2-3 inches and then on a 5.5 inch radius back in. It looks great and works even better. We used three spreaders for each side. Bryan used the same round tube to make the struts to the frame and welded them on. We bent a peice to loop between the cats on the front. Worked great. the weight of the truck was on the loop at one point and it worked fine.
basically what they are is 2x4 x 3/16 x whatever the length of the rockers are. I think Bryan ordered 10 feet for two. The side bars are 1.5x.125 tube. We bent the front edge to make the outside edge of the bar about 5.5 from the edge of the 2x4, but that would really depend on where you put the 2x4. basically, its about the width of the tube out from the tires. about where the back door starts we bent the tube out 2-3 inches and then on a 5.5 inch radius back in. It looks great and works even better. We used three spreaders for each side. Bryan used the same round tube to make the struts to the frame and welded them on. We bent a peice to loop between the cats on the front. Worked great. the weight of the truck was on the loop at one point and it worked fine.
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Well the only reason i show the chrome ones is because i am unaware of the "true" offroading equipment and accessories out there... i know i have to learn alot about the purpose of a landcruiser and understand, ( i just came out of dealing with fast and furious cars and bling bling accessories)... so if possible show this "little grasshopper" the right way to do things...
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oh... those Hanna Quality FZJ80 Sliders: (93-97) are reallly nice.. much better than the ones i listed above.. thanx for the sites.... the parts you guys show me are soooooo much more purpose minded.
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where is there a site for nice looking rims for the land cruiser. i am going to give it a lift as well but i do want some nice rims... any help>
I'm pretty sure you can go bigger than a 16', but no smaller. 15s can be made to fit, but you really don't want to go there. They will not fit over the rear calipers without grinding and it's really easy to screw it up.
Sicko,
There are several options for rims; again, you need to think about how you plan to use the truck. Since you mentioned that you already have the 36" tyres in 16" in diameter you can focus on finding the rims that meet your needs.
Many are running the 16" OEM steelies that came on just a handful of trucks in the US but the wheels can be ordered from C-Dan. They are a quality wheel and will make an excellent choice for off-roading. However, they have little "bling" in the Fast and Furious sense. They are very durable and can (conceivably) be bent back to shape if you trash one. Being OEM for the 80, these have the proper width, bolt pattern, and offset.
The factory alloys are also an excellent rim but you'll scratch them up quickly. A few guys have powder coated their factory alloys and that combo looks very good in my opinion. The other common selection is an aftermarket "wagon wheel" steel wheel; usually painted black.
-B-
There are several options for rims; again, you need to think about how you plan to use the truck. Since you mentioned that you already have the 36" tyres in 16" in diameter you can focus on finding the rims that meet your needs.
Many are running the 16" OEM steelies that came on just a handful of trucks in the US but the wheels can be ordered from C-Dan. They are a quality wheel and will make an excellent choice for off-roading. However, they have little "bling" in the Fast and Furious sense. They are very durable and can (conceivably) be bent back to shape if you trash one. Being OEM for the 80, these have the proper width, bolt pattern, and offset.
The factory alloys are also an excellent rim but you'll scratch them up quickly. A few guys have powder coated their factory alloys and that combo looks very good in my opinion. The other common selection is an aftermarket "wagon wheel" steel wheel; usually painted black.
-B-
onesik, why do i get the feeling your next question will be about where to get the best body lifts... I agree with b-wulf, your best options are either to use the existign mags or get a set of factory steel rims which are not expensive and look great. The advantage to getting steel rims is that you can leave a set of street tires on the mags for around town use, and switch to the serious tires on steel rims the rest of the time. A number of people here do that and I have come to agree that it is a better approach than mine, which was to try to use one set of AT tires for on and offroad.
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well like i said earlier. I am pretty ignorant in building this vehicle the way you guyz only know best. "so where do i get the best lift?" lol..............no just playing. Ill find a lift shop. I wont be offroading tooooo much due to the lifestyle i have (single parent, work six days a week, new girl) but there will be times when i can go and play. But since i will be driving this vehicle on the streets now and then, I would like a nice rim. Im a rookie , i cant fake that.
onesik, sorry I was making an in-joke on the body lift based on your affection for chrome and fancy rims: a body lift does not significantly improve offroad performance but looks cool, as distinct from a suspension lift which both improves offroad performance and looks cool but costs a little more. The point I was making is that your questions seem to indicate that you have not quite outgrown the bling. You will get razzed for that here but don't dispair, we will still answer your questions so long as you don't go to 20" chrome rims, at which point you will be banned 
If you want a lift, don't hesitate to ask questions here so you get a good one. Your local lift shop may sell you any old junk. I would go to sleeoffroad.com and buy one of the Old Man EMu lifts listed there, get it shipped and have it installed locally (or find a local OME vendor).
if the factory rims really don't do it for you around town please buy what you like, but I don't think I have seen a post here where anyone has mentioned any alternatives based on street appearance so you'll have to go through the catalogues at your local les schwab. We are all reverse posers here and, excepting B-wulf and his saran wrap, we will never admit to being slaves to bling. Also if you do buy new street rims, please sell your factory rims to me cheap. I could use an extra set.
If you want a lift, don't hesitate to ask questions here so you get a good one. Your local lift shop may sell you any old junk. I would go to sleeoffroad.com and buy one of the Old Man EMu lifts listed there, get it shipped and have it installed locally (or find a local OME vendor).
if the factory rims really don't do it for you around town please buy what you like, but I don't think I have seen a post here where anyone has mentioned any alternatives based on street appearance so you'll have to go through the catalogues at your local les schwab. We are all reverse posers here and, excepting B-wulf and his saran wrap, we will never admit to being slaves to bling. Also if you do buy new street rims, please sell your factory rims to me cheap. I could use an extra set.
>> excepting B-wulf and his saran wrap, <<
Saran wrap proved to be too thin. The solution that worked for me was much thicker and worked perfectly. C-Dan called it shrink wrap and Robbie said it looked like a condom. That in itself speaks volumes for Robbie's maturity.
The material and source for the stuff is a closely guarded secret.... as are the few surviving pictures.
-B-
Saran wrap proved to be too thin. The solution that worked for me was much thicker and worked perfectly. C-Dan called it shrink wrap and Robbie said it looked like a condom. That in itself speaks volumes for Robbie's maturity.
The material and source for the stuff is a closely guarded secret.... as are the few surviving pictures.
-B-