I was the one who said it was a 2H ,Im so used to seeing HJ75
.Most of FJ75 have disappeared in these parts.
I think it would be a 3F. I cant recall ever hearing of a factory installed 2F into 70.But who knows?
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I was the one who said it was a 2H ,Im so used to seeing HJ75
.Most of FJ75 have disappeared in these parts.
I think it would be a 3F. I cant recall ever hearing of a factory installed 2F into 70.But who knows?
crushers
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acording to my research the first 3F was installed in Japan in 1984 in the FJ61
the north american version got the 3F in early 1988...
other countries might vary, no where have i found a record of a factory installed 2F into a 70 series... of course there have been odd balls found so who knows.
the north american version got the 3F in early 1988...
other countries might vary, no where have i found a record of a factory installed 2F into a 70 series... of course there have been odd balls found so who knows.
Hello,
I remember reading, back in late 1989 or early 1990, an issue of Popular Mechanics about the then-new FJ80 (I am not sure about the model, so please correct me if I am wrong.) The 3F engine it had was deemed as "lacking power," and was highlighted as the FJ80's weak point. The article went on, comparing the 3F with V8 engines that powered other SUVs at the time, and found it wanting.
I don't think it was a fair asessment, but that is just my opinion.
Interestingly, I have never heard complaints about the 3F's power output. It turned out to be as good as the 2F it replaced. I still see 1985 FJ70s every now and then, going on with the 3F engine, still going strong.
I agree with roscoFJ73, it is almost unstoppable.
JuanJ
crushers
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the 3F in an 80 series is a gutless POS that has a bottomless gut for fuel...
in a pickup it might be better, i will find out if i ever get my 3F power land cruiser pickup in from Japan. i will be doing a trip across Canada so if i have any money left after paying the fuel bill i will be surprised. it will be loaded with about 2500 lbs in the back and towing a PZJ70... i expect the fuel milage to be around 9-10 mpg CND...maybe lower...
in a pickup it might be better, i will find out if i ever get my 3F power land cruiser pickup in from Japan. i will be doing a trip across Canada so if i have any money left after paying the fuel bill i will be surprised. it will be loaded with about 2500 lbs in the back and towing a PZJ70... i expect the fuel milage to be around 9-10 mpg CND...maybe lower...
The FJ75 in oz was carbed until about 92 and then had a short stint with a 3FE until they started fitting the 1FZFE in about 94.
Yours will be carbed.
Mine wasnt too bad on the highway performance wise,around town it was a dog until you hit 3rd.
Mine topped out at 94+ mph but lost compression after that one
WTF is mpg CDN? I hope its nothing like Tapage's US gallons per klm
The FJ73 was getting around 18-20 litre/100klms or 14 mpg imperial average without a load,maybe 16 mpg on a long trip.
Nearly all the remaining FJ75(and FJ60) in oz are on LPG which they gobble at anything up to 30 litres /100klm but its half the price of petrol here as it atracts a lower tax.
Thats a helleva trip with all that weight and distance.
Hello Crushers,
PM's asessment was correct then... for a Series 80. No wonder Toyota replaced it with the 1FZ engine.
From what I have seen, it performs better in the Series 70.
Of course, gas prices being what they are now, a 3F engine can be hard on the wallet. Hope you have some money left after your trip, anyway.
By the way, as roscoFJ73 asked, what is mpg CDN?
JuanJ
The FJ75 in oz was carbed until about 92 and then had a short stint with a 3FE until they started fitting the 1FZFE in about 94.
Yours will be carbed.
Mine wasnt too bad on the highway performance wise,around town it was a dog until you hit 3rd.
Mine topped out at 94+ mph but lost compression after that one
WTF is mpg CDN? I hope its nothing like Tapage's US gallons per klm
The FJ73 was getting around 18-20 litre/100klms or 14 mpg imperial average without a load,maybe 16 mpg on a long trip.
Nearly all the remaining FJ75(and FJ60) in oz are on LPG which they gobble at anything up to 30 litres /100klm but its half the price of petrol here as it atracts a lower tax.
Thats a helleva trip with all that weight and distance.
Never seen a 75 series with a 3FE, what a waste of time!! If I ever upgrade from my FJ73, a FZJ75 would be the ticket, and swap my low pinion diff into the front, GREAT!!
With my 3F, on gas I get 310km to 77L, on petrol its something worse. Its slow but does the job, once in low range spins the 35''s fine.
I dont think the 3FE in a 75 was a big seller
It was probably a stop gap to get the 75 to conform to the new emissions standards at the time
crushers
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LOL!!
mpg CND
for the Yanks reading the thread, not wanting them to get confused.
the real sad part of the whole thing is that in the back is a very fine 1HZ/H55F for in the engine bay when i get it down here. the other sad thing is the PZJ70 it will be towing will be better on fuel...
i am guessing at $1500-$1800 in fuel expenses to cross Canada's waste land.
mpg CND
for the Yanks reading the thread, not wanting them to get confused.
the real sad part of the whole thing is that in the back is a very fine 1HZ/H55F for in the engine bay when i get it down here. the other sad thing is the PZJ70 it will be towing will be better on fuel...
i am guessing at $1500-$1800 in fuel expenses to cross Canada's waste land.
I dont think the 3FE in a 75 was a big seller
Mate just digging up a old thread just curious about this 3fe in a 75 have you seen one before or seen a brocher or just got told about them, for aus anyways, just curious because when i was looking at 75's a few years back i found a fj75 92mdl which had carby and and just through research and reading the oct 92 is when they released the 1fz fzj75?
Maybe Im wrong. You hear snippets of info from people you think are in the know ,but it sometimes turns out you know more than them.
I read all the reviews in the newspapers and I think they sometimes write them without ever seeing the vehicle
Its possible someone has looked at the fuel injection and thought it was a 3FE.
Toyota usually holds off on giving all the cruisers a new engine at the same time, for example the turbo 6 and the V8 diesel were availble in the wagons long before the 7* series.
No one wants to spend all their money on a top of the range model to have a plumber drive past with the same engine.
Maybe Im wrong. You hear snippets of info from people you think are in the know ,but it sometimes turns out you know more than them.
I read all the reviews in the newspapers and I think they sometimes write them without ever seeing the vehicle
Its possible someone has looked at the fuel injection and thought it was a 3FE.
Toyota usually holds off on giving all the cruisers a new engine at the same time, for example the turbo 6 and the V8 diesel were availble in the wagons long before the 7* series.
No one wants to spend all their money on a top of the range model to have a plumber drive past with the same engine.
haha i was thinking along those lines to about maybe it was a conversion if someone had seen a 3fe and i have seen 75's with rb30 injected motors (out of vl commys) and inj falcon motors i really dont know why you would waste your time though so maybe tthey see a injected 6 and think its a std 6 because if you were to replace a 6 it would more than likely be replaced by 8 cyl or a 6cly diesel
haha i was thinking along those lines to about maybe it was a conversion if someone had seen a 3fe
I thought I got it from the newspaper or one of the big 3 4wd mags
hey guys my opinion After driving a 2F and a 3F is that teh 2F had more Power behind it than teh 3F, i no most People that drove 2F cruisers here for Hunting and such swapped for a 3F cause of the 5th gear that came in the adjoined gearbox(speed was thier reason), Now if you ask an Old school Hunter who traded his 2F in, he will almost definatly tell you that if he has a second chance he would keep his 2F =)
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i have owned and driven dozens of 2Fs in all sorts of degree of deterioration from fresh rebuilds to bagged out POS. i know own a 3F with original 10,000 km on it and i have to say i like it the same as the old 2F, same grunt, same road speeds... i would not know the difference unless i popped the hood.
LOl hey m8 well thiers not much i can say against that its your many years of experience against my practically zero years experience =) i just hear from the Older guys that they only got the cruisers with 3F cause it came with a 5th forward gear,. by teh way that Fire truck you got is a Purdy ride =)
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in all seriousness, i drive what ever is under the hood. as long as it isn't a L series engine i am happy.
thanks, the firetruck is now a working rig. it has to pay for itself as the final cost was 3X the estimate.
thanks, the firetruck is now a working rig. it has to pay for itself as the final cost was 3X the estimate.
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I went for ride in a fj40 with a 3FE, pulled much better than the 2F and smoother.
It was in Texas and I was very impressed overall.
Rob
It was in Texas and I was very impressed overall.
Rob
Also as the 4500 use the h150 box the stick is alot more closer to the seats than dash ,so that pic of the interior with the gear stick posi tells me it a h55 box and most ven cruisers are petrols thats how id pick 3f,
that 79 series front at first looks make you think its a later model to have the 4.5
even there early 1fz cruisers were carby
(pulled my brothers 1fz head of for gasketa while ago and found a spare cam lobe... and hole with plate on the side of the head.....
did some research and found out they made carbd 1fz's)
