why so few HJ's in USA?

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hi... greetings from norway..

it seem's there is 90% FJ's among your 60 seiries... some BJ's ,(wich i think nobody has over here) and a very few HJ's
Over here 99,9 % of 60's are HJ's !

can anyone give me some insight on this... are all diesel 60's in USA secondhand/private imported?
did they not offer the big diesels at the dealerships?

is diesel "akward" and unpractical in US? do all gas-stations sell diesel?


oh.. yeah... and:cheers:
 

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There never were any diesel land cruisers imported into the United States. Mine was imported by the guy I bought it from. The same would be true of any BJ/HJ in the US.
 
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There never were any diesel land cruisers imported into the United States. Mine was imported by the guy I bought it from. The same would be true of any BJ/HJ in the US.


must be just the opposite from over here....i'm a member of the norwegian LC club (NLCK) and i only know of ONE fj in norway...i'm sure there are a handful more but still....
so does one get admiration from other cruiser-nerds when one shows up with a HJ? :)
 
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like said before all the HJs and BJs have been imported. I think it is kind of a novelty when someone has a Toyota Diesel in their 60/62. There are more and more people trying to get their hands on a 3B or 2H diesel from canada or other sources to convert their FJ into a HJ or BJ, myself included.

Our gas prices here in America have jump considerably in the past few weeks and its not going to get any better. I think a good diesel is going to cost an arm and a leg in the near future do to the demand in america on these foreign motors.

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The problem with diesel in the US/Canada is that for years we have been spoiled with cheap gas.
When the gas prices went up in the mid-late '70's GM tried to put a diesel head on their 350 V8, it was a dismal failure and further alienated folks here against diesel.
Now it's a battle with the emissions folks because a diesel might have visible emissions while a gasser has more emissions and the gasser emissions are more toxic.
My BJ60 is a Canadian truck and I was roundly criticized (poor opinion of diesels due to the GM 350 wanna-be diesel fiasco) for buying a diesel back in '89 when I bought it. I'll be driving it till Toyota once again brings diesels to North America in the Land Cruisers.
 
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i see--- well... we have plenty of 2H's over here... since rust kills all cruisers with our weather.... so here a 2H isn't worth much more than a rear hatch or a couple of doors..... but i guess that would be the same in canada..
 
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the 120 (known as the new prado in us?) and the 100 seiries are still not sold with diesel? here the 120 is 100% sold with diesel... the 100 ,99,99
it's just to expensive to have gas-engines in these big heavy cars... gas costs aprx. twice as much here than there, and with diesel atleast you get 30-40 mpg
 
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the 120 (known as the new prado in us?) and the 100 seiries are still not sold with diesel? here the 120 is 100% sold with diesel... the 100 ,99,99
it's just to expensive to have gas-engines in these big heavy cars... gas costs aprx. twice as much here than there, and with diesel atleast you get 30-40 mpg

Currently there is NO diesel Toyota offered for sale in Canada or the USA. The only diesel powered "light" vehicles are the VW Jetta/Golf and the "Smart" car. After that you have the Ford/Dodge/GM 3/4 ton and up pickups.
I'm pretty sure that's it till you get to the commercial trucks!
 
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that's funny.....over her absolutely every car,small or big on the market has a diesel options..(except ferraris and stuff like that) more than 50 % of new cars sold are diesels.. sales have soared the last 10 years....... i'm 100% sure it will happen over there too...... modern diesels are punchy as hell... hehe-- wish i had one in my HJ60...(the 2H is not very punchy... no sprinter)
 
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I can answer that question:

Because the general public is STUPID, because Toyota is STUPID, but most of all because the darn EPA is STUPID!

They just don't get it.

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No, it's not funny! It's as frustrating as you can imagine. The last diesel LandCruiser was sold here in '87. The last diesel Toyota pickup in '86. I think cars stopped then too.
Even Mercedes Benz doesn't offer diesels here!
The diesel VW in the Golf/Jetta are actually quite gutsy. My mom has a Golf and my dad has the Jetta!
 
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Look at that, I simultaneous posting w/ the same answer!

Diesel will one day present itself to the "Clunkinator"!
 

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