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This is exactly why I'm building up my 80. My dad and I have talked about the Rubicon since I was 16. Well he is getting older (68) and I figure it is now or never. I know the 100 is probably a better replacement for my 4Runner, but I can always get one down the road. I won't always be able to wheel the Rubicon in a built 80 with my dad.


Driving and spotting are absolutely two completely different perspectives of the trail. Been there done both. Overall spotting is less fatiguing even though you wind up walking most of the trail. For me the stress level is pretty high spotting because someone else is putting complete faith in my judgment. You really want to get it right in that situation.Best argument I've seen all day for going. DO IT!!!
Doing the Rubicon in 2008 is top 5 all time best vacations for me... we had a blast the entire week. If I were to go back it would be as a passenger/spotter.. not that my 80 couldn't do it again tomorrow, and not that my 100 couldn't do it by next summer, but because I'd want a different experience, that's all. I don't regret taking the 80 through it for a minute, I actually smile when I see some of the scratches, and there's this one dent on the slider in particular that I'll never forget..
take your dad to Rubicon, you'll remember that experience for life.![]()
Driving and spotting are absolutely two completely different perspectives of the trail. Been there done both. Overall spotting is less fatiguing even though you wind up walking most of the trail. For me the stress level is pretty high spotting because someone else is putting complete faith in my judgment. You really want to get it right in that situation.
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I'd spot someone elses 100 throughCompletely agree.. I've been spotting/leading for about 10 years now, at least 2 club runs per year, plus Cruise Moab.. each time out I learn something, and I get a lot from it. So "spot Rubicon" would elevate that to another level, just as "drive Rubicon" was another goal of mine. Not sure I'd want to spot someone else driving my 100 through there though..![]()
. I doubt my 100 will ever get closer than Wentworth Springs to the Rubicon. IMHO it's just the wrong tool for the job.Lets be clear, anyone can give an opinion whether they have done something or not. When you give an opinion you spout like its the law from god rather than just couching it as your opinion and thats what stuck in my craw. Maybe you don't REALIZE you come off thast way.
Scott Brady is a good guy and I would value his opinion, it's your delivery that starts the back and forth. If you had said "I talked with Scott Brady and he said" that would be different. Just a suggestion for ya![]()



It's plenty scratched but still dent free!


I'm still of the mind view that 100 series cruisers can do the Rubicon
Alvaro uses the term "Roman engineering", it means stacking rocks and building a road over an obstacle.I'm still of the mind view that 100 series cruisers can do the Rubicon if they have the experienced support team needed (since there is a lot of BS going on here in this thread....)
Sign up for Andy's Wagon Run and we'll get you through....though you'll have to pay us in beer for recompense once we get to the Springs.
...Good beer..not CDan Keystone Light.....
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That's the difference though...2-4 horrible obstacles vs 1,235 on the Rubi. Way more overal risk...though way more overall excitement when done.
Based on my experience when I rode with Amando crossing the Rubicon, i recommended for any future rider on 100 series is to get a ear plugs, (actually I don't need it) due LOTS of crunching sounds.
Regards,