Which would you buy, a BJ60 or a HJ60?

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I am looking into importing my own Diesel LandCruiser into the states this late summer or early fall, and I can't decide on which one to buy. The 3b engine has more hp per cylinder and better fuel economy, but the 2h has 2 extra cylinders, meaning more potential and that great 6cyl feel.

The question of the day is, if you could decide between two perfect trucks with the only difference being the number of cylinders, tell me which one would you get, and why.

Here's to diesel cruisers! :beer:
 
Is this to drive or to use as a donor for the FJ60 you have?

I think many here like both. Almost 50/50 with fans from both sides.

I like the 3b but unless it is turbo'd it is a little too slow in a 60. But I like the tough aspect of it. And I don't live in a city, so going slow isn't a problem.

But still I put my vote in for a low mileage 3B if you can find one. I think you might find more HJ60's cleaner and with lower miles. But I dunno. G-luck.

try www.canadatrader.com use BC to start and select all provinces. Best luck for finding a cleaner unit is going west. Not much good will come out of Ontario or east. Just a winter thing.

I find there are many clean units in Alberta too. My BJ60 was from Alberta and it wasn't too bad when I got it. But it was on the verge of a blow out. But I caught most of it early.
 
I'd go with the 3B but that's my opinion. They both have good and bad points. The head/precombustion chambers on the 3B do crack (I know from experience) and I've heard that the rings can be a weak spot on the 2H.
The head you can deal with by watching your pyrometer, I'm not sure how you'd deal with weak rings.
 
My vote is for the 2H. Fuel economy is about the same, but the 6 cyl has slightly more power and is smother and quiter.
I do suggest driving vehicles with these engines before buying one. Even if it means going to Canada or another country. You may not feel either has the power you need for US highway driving conditions. You might want to opt for importing HZJ7* or something else with more power.
 
cruiser_guy said:
I've heard that the rings can be a weak spot on the 2H.
The head you can deal with by watching your pyrometer, I'm not sure how you'd deal with weak rings.
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Ive never heard of it being a problem. From my observations most 2H clock up 400000+klm if serviced somewhat reguarly.
The 2H was the main engine used in the mines before the 1HZ came along and is well proven

Ive noticed some 2H blow a small amount of blue smoke at idle but I think that it maybe valve guide seals.

I vote the HJ60 just for the extra HP and you can still put a low boost turbo set up on if you want.
 
My vote is for the 3B

I have owned an HJ60. One thing to consider is the cost of oil changes for the HJ. IIRC the 2H engine require 10 liters of oil and the oil filters were about $24 each. I had difficulty finding after market filters. Bought them from the dealer. My 3B uses a common filter and about 6 liters of oil. When a turbo is added it will more than make up the power difference compared to the 2H.
Regards
 
3BTLC said:
I have owned an HJ60. One thing to consider is the cost of oil changes for the HJ. IIRC the 2H engine require 10 liters of oil and the oil filters were about $24 each. I had difficulty finding after market filters. Bought them from the dealer. My 3B uses a common filter and about 6 liters of oil. When a turbo is added it will more than make up the power difference compared to the 2H.
Regards
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Then what happens when you turbo the 2H?:lol: Compare apples with apples not apples with oranges. A turbo on a 2H can out perform a 1HZ but then when a 1hz gets a good turbo it's a different ballgame. :idea: Then oranges and [maybe] mangoes. My Personal opinion on the ring problem is it only happens to people who do not keep the correct oil level in their motors. Going back to the early 2H what is the difference between a 2H or 3B rings and liners? :D ;)
 
bigbrowndog said:
what is the difference between a 2H or 3B rings and liners? :D ;)
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Piston skirt cooling nozzles..or lack thereof in the case of the 2H.
3B, 13B-T, 12H-T, 1HZ, 1HD-T All have em.
Lets all draw our own conclusions.
 
brownbear said:
Is this to drive or to use as a donor for the FJ60 you have?

I think many here like both. Almost 50/50 with fans from both sides.

I like the 3b but unless it is turbo'd it is a little too slow in a 60. But I like the tough aspect of it. And I don't live in a city, so going slow isn't a problem.

But still I put my vote in for a low mileage 3B if you can find one. I think you might find more HJ60's cleaner and with lower miles. But I dunno. G-luck.

try www.canadatrader.com use BC to start and select all provinces. Best luck for finding a cleaner unit is going west. Not much good will come out of Ontario or east. Just a winter thing.

I find there are many clean units in Alberta too. My BJ60 was from Alberta and it wasn't too bad when I got it. But it was on the verge of a blow out. But I caught most of it early.
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Thanks for that website. That will definitely help!

My FJ is no more, unfortunately, due to that lexus. I had an accident because that lexus drove through a stop sign. Long story short, I no longer have that rig and want to buy a diesel cruiser. I was originally thinking the HJ because of the extra potential and the fact that I can throw in a 12H-T at some point if I would like.

70sguy said:
Piston skirt cooling nozzles..or lack thereof in the case of the 2H.
3B, 13B-T, 12H-T, 1HZ, 1HD-T All have em.
Lets all draw our own conclusions.
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That is something that I did not know. My question to you is if the 2H can last for more than 400,000 kms then why would you want to have piston skirt cooling?

cruiser_guy said:
I'd go with the 3B but that's my opinion. They both have good and bad points. The head/precombustion chambers on the 3B do crack (I know from experience) and I've heard that the rings can be a weak spot on the 2H.
The head you can deal with by watching your pyrometer, I'm not sure how you'd deal with weak rings.
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What are their good/bad points excluding power and maintenance costs?
 
hks3sgte said:
x2!!!!
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The upgrade from 3B to 13B-T is nearly as easy and a fabulous little powerplant
as well. I guess you have to decide what you want to end up with in terms of power.
 
When and if you decide on a plan of action....i have a 1983 BJ60 that was licensed and on the road up until Nov 2006, when rust issue's in the rear frame section forced it off the road i am now parting out and it has the complete 3B drivetrain from the radiator to the rear of the transfer case, including power steering, it's all there including, wiring, shifters, air cleaner and all the frame mounts to put this conversion into a fj60 frame

$3000.00 CDN .....pickup would be best as shipping would be "BRUTAL"

Best Regards

Gord

*** at this point i won't be selling parts of this drivetrain, i want to sell the complete package, so if you want parts of it you have to but it all and sell what you don't need****
 
Dude .. I'm 2H proud owner for more than 8 years .. Awesome engine ( expesive to rebuild but it make you only happines after that when it needs ) now are turboed and intercooler with 14 PSI ..

I love the 2H for only one reazon ( and I know have cons as same as 3B )

There are no replacement for displacement :D
 
Tapage said:
Dude .. I'm 2H proud owner for more than 8 years .. Awesome engine ( expesive to rebuild but it make you only happines after that when it needs ) now are turboed and intercooler with 14 PSI ..

I love the 2H for only one reazon ( and I know have cons as same as 3B )

There are no replacement for displacement :D
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Awesome. Good call. When did you have to rebuild your engine Tapage? By that I meant how many kms?



Thanks exmodlad but I am looking to buy a complete truck later this year.
 
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