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New job has me driving a lot. Ford’s chip shortage has my 2018 F250 In positive equity. Decided it’s stupid to hang on to it. I just don’t pull as frequently anymore

I’m off road a lot.
I drive 150 miles a day. Much of that time on the phone (i.e. need quite)

I’ve searched, but can’t find a comparison. Probably using the wrong terms but struggling to understand the changes from 2015 to 2016

if I’m coming out of an f250 with factory rear lockers, that I use all the time, will I be disappointed with this computerized off-road system?

I started down the LC path because it’s ability to handle high miles, can pull a trailer, can get me around in the ranch.
 
Mostly cosmetic and minor electrical features changed from 2015 to 2016, but the biggest thing that might apply to you most is that the 2016 gets bigger brakes and an 8-speed transmission (compared to prior 6-speed).
 
You can add a rear locker (couple thousand $). Computers are good for most all terrain, but when you need it you need it.
 
The LC, even without a rear locker will walk over technical terrain in ways no F250 will. Part of the reason is the superior 4x4 system. The other part is the superior suspension system. Comparing a load bearing suspension that is the F250 to a more off-road capable articulating suspension. Articulation will be hugely better with what is effectively disconnecting sways provided by KDSS. Such that wheels are not likely to lift in the first place to necessitate lockers to continue moving forward. If the tires do eventually leave the ground, there's ATRAC and CRAWL systems to keep things moving.
 
OP your job sounds a lot like what the previous owner is my LX used it for. Oil field engineering driving a lot off asphalt and on the phone the entire time. He spoke real highly of the Lx for these needs.
 
grinchy said:
OP your job sounds a lot like what the previous owner is my LX used it for. Oil field engineering driving a lot off asphalt and on the phone the entire time. He spoke real highly of the Lx for these needs.
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I’m a banker with 8 branches. I’m constantly between them.
Got a streak of redneck in me.
 
TeCKis300 said:
The LC, even without a rear locker will walk over technical terrain in ways no F250 will. Part of the reason is the superior 4x4 system. The other part is the superior suspension system. Comparing a load bearing suspension that is the F250 to a more off-road capable articulating suspension. Articulation will be hugely better with what is effectively disconnecting sways provided by KDSS. Such that wheels are not likely to lift in the first place to necessitate lockers to continue moving forward. If the tires do eventually leave the ground, there's ATRAC and CRAWL systems to keep things moving.
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@atnolan94 is this true?!
 
I almost forgot adaptive cruise control. That was another reason we went 16+

Although the ACC in the LC is extremely basic - it’s way ahead of conventional cruise for driving in traffic.
 
I could be way off, but my ‘13 had some sort of radar cruise control that was very similar in function to the one on my ‘16. Any possibility that it just got improved or updated in ‘16?
 
CharlieS said:
I could be way off, but my ‘13 had some sort of radar cruise control that was very similar in function to the one on my ‘16. Any possibility that it just got improved or updated in ‘16?
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The newer one is much better…smoother…less jerky (sudden braking and sudden acceleration when a car in front gets out of the way).

I use ACC every chance i get in my LC. I love it. Sure, it will be better if i can go to sleep…but then again, i don’t want my LC to keep crashing into parked police cars or fire trucks.
 
CharlieS said:
Good to know. Thanks. I only used mine to see how it works and maybe once or twice on long highway trips.
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One more thing…if i remember correctly during my test drive of a 2014? LC was that the ACC would turn off when your wipers come on. So, you cannot use it in any type of rain if your wipers turn on.

The new ACC can be use in rain with wipers on! I love it. I turn it on and it acts like a second set of eyes in the rain.
 
ga12r1 said:
@atnolan94 is this true?!
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Being in 200 tech is daunting so bear with me.

So much to unpack. 4wd is 4wd. Articulation is articulation. and size and wheelbase are what they are. I realize ATRAC works well as I have a 2000 LC, but theres wayyyyyy more to discuss.

First point I agree somewhat; stock for stock the f250 does not articulate better. Stock front wheel travel is like 6 inches. the rear leafs are so stiff that even with all the rear end weight on one wheel you won't be at full bump. But like $5k in a Carli kit I have 12-14" of front wheel travel, softer leafs in the back and like 14-16" of wheel travel. I now comfortably clear 37s and with a rear locker that's an extremely capable vehicle. Not to mention the 1000 ft lb of torque in the deezols. ATRAC will never replace a locker. And a cruiser will never replace a truck in terms of utility. Stock for stock they aren't even worth comparing because they are built for completely different things. This is why I own both. The truck does great at the ranch and on my commute. Cruiser is great to wheel with and camp out of. To answer OP, what you'll miss is the power and the bed utility in my opinion. I went a while without a truck, just a cruiser and an LS460. Ultimately the lack of utility in the cruiser became and issue for me as we got more involved in Farming and Ranching.

Will a cruiser do better on tight, windy mountain trails? In the woods of Arkansas? Absolutely, and it is what I take to Arkansas and Colorado. Will the truck do compete or do better basically everywhere else? Absolutely, and that's why it goes to the ranch and honestly if we did another Moab trip I would have to consider the truck. What I am saying is there is no point comparing because they are totally different vehicles. This isn't comparing a cruiser to a sequoia, or even a Tacoma to a Ranger. We are talking about two vehicles which serve completely different purposes and are both A+ at what they are made for. Why even waste your breath comparing?

The cruiser gets me around the ranch comfortably with no issues. The truck gets me around the ranch comfortably with no issues and can also haul out our dead JD 5075EE tractor with a chain (did that on Saturday), bring a trailer out with a heavy steel duck blind (done that 100x), and make life a lot easier when you can load up a bed and not mess with a trailer. The truck is BIG, and tight areas are a no go. But in Waco Texas a tight squeeze is not a common sight. FWIW I have a place right up the road in Hamilton, but primarily go to my waterfowl place in Paris.

This will spook a lot of people around 200 tech and MUD in general, but if the zombie apocalypse came I would take the F250. I am preparing to be flamed by the fanboys. To OP if I had a ranch (which I do) I would miss the truck big time (which I did). In all honestly you'll regret ditching the truck IMHO. Not saying its a better vehicle. I am saying it is better for your needs.
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mattafact said:
It is if it's a gasser F250. Deezul? Not a chance.
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Matt we may want to hustle back to 100 tech and get with people in our net worth bracket
 
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