Transport Canada's Review of 15yr+ Imports

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Since many 70 series are 15year + imports from Japan, I thought this place to ask.

Is there a thread covering Transport Canada' review of the 15 year import exemption - somewhere. I see Transport Canada's is asking for public input on this - questioning safety. I hope someone is coordinating or encouraging a response to this witch hunt.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/15yearrule.htm
 
Glenn-BJ74 said:
Since many 70 series are 15year + imports from Japan, I thought this place to ask.

Is there a thread covering Transport Canada' review of the 15 year import exemption - somewhere. I see Transport Canada's is asking for public input on this - questioning safety. I hope someone is coordinating or encouraging a response to this witch hunt.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/15yearrule.htm
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Glenn, you need to find your way over to www.ivoac.ca

Much happens behind the scene on the that forum, and I am sure they would appreciate the help.

hth's

gb
 
I checked the government site and it does not look to good for people that are looking forward to buying a jdm. I kind of knew as the popularity increased and so many numbers of these micro sized vehicles appeared on the road, it would soon come to an end. If it does happen I hope GS cruisers will continue to support existing jdms.
 
Can you expand on exactly why you think it doesn't look good for the JDM's? Anything specific you found or is it just a feeling?
 
Martin White said:
Can you expand on exactly why you think it doesn't look good for the JDM's? Anything specific you found or is it just a feeling?
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I can guess the reasons there will pretty much the same as those in Australia leading up to a change in the 15 year law here.

Used car dealers feel threatened by low klm imports with more options and better overall condition and find the average used car price slipping.
New car dealers find imports are taking the edge off their sales by people opting for low klm imports instead of buying new. eg Why buy an expensive people mover when you can get a nice JDM 8o series with 3rd row seats ,quality finish and 4wd?
 
The main difference between OZ and Canukia is what we drive. In OZ their are tonnes of domestic Land Cruisers and diesels. In Canada there is not. So the JDM's coming in are not mirrors of the domestics at lower prices. They are expensive unique RHD vehicles. For a niche market.
 
brownbear said:
the JDM's coming in are not mirrors of the domestics at lower prices. They are expensive unique RHD vehicles. For a niche market.
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well put...
 
I rather doubt if a few JDM Landcruiser owners are the target of the 15 to 25 year rule change effort. Canada is trying to use the same ineffective tactic on street racing as they did on gun control, i.e. ban the object that a few abuse instead of actually doing something about those who break the law. It's the tried and true Lieberal vote buying ploy, i.e. appear to be doing something and the average Canuk voter won't question if it's effective or not.
 
brownbear said:
The main difference between OZ and Canukia is what we drive. In OZ their are tonnes of domestic Land Cruisers and diesels. In Canada there is not. So the JDM's coming in are not mirrors of the domestics at lower prices. They are expensive unique RHD vehicles. For a niche market.
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That difference exists but buying a JDM vehicle still starves the car dealers who have only local models to sell.
Those who go and buy a JDM 80 series might have bought a Suburban or a Cherokee if that was all that was on offer.

Landcruisers here only made up a very small portion of the vehicles imported. Most of the imports were Sylvias,Soarers and other rice cookers.
 
roscoFJ73 said:
That difference exists but buying a JDM vehicle still starves the car dealers who have only local models to sell.
Those who go and buy a JDM 80 series might have bought a Suburban or a Cherokee if that was all that was on offer.

Landcruisers here only made up a very small portion of the vehicles imported. Most of the imports were Sylvias,Soarers and other rice cookers.
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The market for Suburbans or shall I say buyer... is not the same guy in Canada who will buy a JDM 80.

Where Canada differs from the US is in these vehicles(suburbans buyers). In the USA guys buy em to drive as DD's. In Canada the typical Suburban owner is Government or commercial companies. Someone who buys new.

The JDMs are viewed as many as too old. Our market really is 5 years or less. So the JDM is a unique buy. RHD also limits the buyers. The average buyer will stay away from that. The Turbo Diesel brings in the most perspective buyers. Again a unique crowd. As diesels are not normal in passenger rides.

Prices scare some away too. As 15 years old and 20K or up for an 80 that looks dated will not sell.


The OZ market; is RHD. Is diesel saturated already. Is used to Toyota trucks too. SO it would have large buying crowd for the JDM units. So they would hurt normal car lot sales.


Probably 700k to 1 million vehicles are sold in Canada each year(new or used, guess... )The JDMs are about 20K units per year. Or less. Small percentage.



I agree with John saying the Ricer racer cars might be causing the biggest problem. The racing is a normal problem, the fact they are using JDMs is just because they are available. If they were not they would race other cars. But the government is too stupid to realize that.
 
Brownbear is right on. I don't think a person spending 20K on an RHD HDJ81 or 77 series can find anything for sale here even remotely in the same range as the aforementioned rigs. Toyota really has nothing for sale anything like these rigs. So for them to somehow conclude these units are taking away from their new car sales is I think pretty short sighted. Once in a while I swing by the local Toyota dealer. They've given up asking me why I didn't buy an FJ Cruiser. Totally different vehicle.
 
I understand it is not probably the cruiser owner they are after but all the other mini vehicles they are after as those would never pass a saftey or crash test. For example the honda flatdeck or the suzuki every, I am not sure about the other 660 cc cars. I knew that these small cars would start to raise safety issues. Since it is government they will wipe out everything. When it comes to government and safety and legal consequences It will have hard time to sign off. Unless there can be another body to sign off I doubt things look good. In the electrical industry CSA used to be the sole body to certify electrical products but now there are other small companies allowed so if something similar was allowed that would be great. As far as used car taking away business, I checked Penticton Toyota and they are still selling Jdms so the smart ones adapt like good business do. I have had my 74 for almost four years and I guess I should get that 80 series soon. I sure hope it won't be retroactive
sorry about the doom and gloom, I hope I am wrong
mreekster
 
as posted on IVOAC, as of this week customs has declared any vehicle less than 15 years old from ANY country except the US are now inadmissable. there is 3 vettes and one F150 (all with manufactures stickers attached) that must leave the country or be destroyed that came in on the last shippment...
 
crushers said:
as posted on IVOAC, as of this week customs has declared any vehicle less than 15 years old from ANY country except the US are now inadmissable. there is 3 vettes and one F150 (all with manufactures stickers attached) that must leave the country or be destroyed that came in on the last shippment...
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How is this ruling different than before? They allowed younger than 15 years in for certain types?
 
if a unit had the cvsse sticker on the car then the unit was admissable at ANY year. now it is not even with the Canada or USA applied sticker...
there is going to be some seriously upset buyers in Canada...
 
M John Galt said:
I rather doubt if a few JDM Landcruiser owners are the target of the 15 to 25 year rule change effort. Canada is trying to use the same ineffective tactic on street racing as they did on gun control, i.e. ban the object that a few abuse instead of actually doing something about those who break the law. It's the tried and true Lieberal vote buying ploy, i.e. appear to be doing something and the average Canuk voter won't question if it's effective or not.
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hear hear! Hit in the bullseye... You should defintely go into politics, you've got my vote :D
 
widewestcruiser said:
I'm thinking about importing another vehicle from Japan. I understand that it can take up to 6 months before the vehicle arrives here in Canada, any chance that MoT will change anything by then?
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there is a slim chance of it changing the rule in the 6 months BUT then we are talking the government so no promises...
i have a unit that is sitting there till next Jan before i can even think about importing it...
 
I just import a few vehicles for friends and family, more for fun then money and also love driving toyota diesels. I feel for you guys that spent all the time establishing business contacts, customers, warranty work and parts and then some friggin bureaucrat draws a line through the equation.
there^s no excuse for narrow minded decisions made from people without real jobs
 
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