trail tools/repair kit

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  1. semlin

    semlin discouraged user

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    there is no ideal trail tool/repair kit, but as I struggle to keep it in two tool boxes and three rubber maids, here is mine. I'm looking for suggestions on what I'm missing or what I don't need.

    wrenches
    8, 10, 12, 14, 17 and 19mm open ended wrenches in stubby and regular (12 pces)
    10/12/14/17mm box wrenches
    monkey wrench that opens to 32mm
    robogrip or similar open mouth wrench that opens to 32 mm

    pliers
    large/small/open mouth (pipe) vice grips
    regular pliers
    needlenose
    cutters
    snap ring

    sockets
    8, 10, 12 mm 1/4 inch drive sockets short and deep ( 6 pces)
    10, 12, 14, 17, 19mm 3/8" inch drive sockets short and deep (10 pces)
    14, 17, 19mmm ½"m drive short and deep (6 pces)
    21mm deep ½" socket (1 pce)
    54mm hub socket (1 pce)
    ½" 18-24" breaker bar
    1/4, 3/8 and ½ ratchets and a 3/8" wobble ratchet
    3" and 6" 1/4 and 3/8" extensions
    6" ½" extension
    ½" torque wrench
    ½" to 3/8" socket adaptor

    screwdrivers
    4 flatheads in various sizes up to the big 18" model
    3 phillips up to the 12" model
    1 variable bit driver with a bit set and a long nose
    metric allen key set

    Heavy Crap
    brass mallet
    brass drift
    claw framing hammer
    impact driver and bits

    Esoteric
    easy outs
    hacksaw w/ extra blades
    magnet retrieval tool
    tie rod end puller
    pickle fork
    propane torch attachment & sparker

    Electrical
    cordless drill w/extra battery
    maglight w/extra batteries
    cobalt drill bit set up to ½"
    multimeter
    stripper/crimper tool
    replacement fuses
    10/12/14 gauge wire
    10/12/14/16 butt connectors
    12/14 spade connectors
    dieletric grease

    general materials
    gasket paper
    white lithium grease
    shop towels and rags
    4 litres engine oil
    4 litres premixed coolant/h20
    brake fluid
    1 litre gear oil
    tube of axle grease
    1 litre ATF
    cutting fluid
    penetrating oil/wd40
    small propane bottle
    blue silicone RTV
    bailing wire :D
    duct tape :D :D

    Parts
    birfield
    one birf kit from inner axle out
    plugs/plug lead set/rotor/cap
    one set wheel bearings
    a few random nuts and bolts
    and.. the FSM :D
     
  2. NorCalDoug

    NorCalDoug problems solved daily...

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    you should include one of those handy tire plug kits.

    Cruiserdrew carries one with him -- he's helped me out in the past.
    I'll be getting one for myself shortly.
     
  3. hoser

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    JB Weld?
     
  4. Beowulf

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    Throw in an assortment of turnbuckles to go along with that bailing wire. A buddy had an aluminum A/C bracket break on his FJ40. Repair/replacement was not an option as we were deep in the mountains of Colorado and a long way from home. Everyone pondered the problem for a while and they came up with an ingenious fix that not only got him through the remainder of the outing but he drove all the way back to NM with the A/C on.

    An assortment of SS hose clamps and various sized hoses. On another trip, the same guy had a leaf spring problem. We fabricated a bushing using some heater hose and someone had a bolt that fit. Finished the day with no problem.

    JBWeld "Quick" if it is for a trail repair that can be redone.

    I didn't see a diff plug socket (26mm I think.) I'm using 10mm hex head plugs.

    3M electrical tape.

    -B-
     
  5. semlin

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    ahh thanks b-wulf I was wondering why I had an extra 24 mm socket in my main tool kit. the diff is why.

    I will definitely add my hose clamp tupperware container (need to buy a couple of bigger clamps) and some jb weld. turnbuckles is a new one but I guess it is smarter that trying to make a spanish windlass with a bolt.

    what's a tire plug kit??
     
  6. Beowulf

    Beowulf

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    This is a good one. I carry a cheap "Monkey Grip" set that I bought for cheap at a Pep Boys.

    -B-
     
  7. DieselROCKS

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    For the Drill, get one of those new cordless impacts

    I've used the makita at work, nice nice unit

    Geoff
     
  8. alia176

    alia176

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    Holy cow, that's a lot of stuff. Then I got to looking at my stash and I'm not too far behind I guess. I try to have multiple use tools to save on weight.

    - a 2.5 lb hammer with a 10" handle as my only hammer
    -a tool set in a low profile molded case that fits in the rear drawer. It has lots of deep and shallow sockets/wrenches/extensions/allen wrenches/1/2",3/8",1/4" drives. This kit is augmented with one 90 deg offset box end wrench 14mm-15mm (perfect for driveshaft removals)
    -a set of metriwrench impact sockets from Harbor Freight (good for metric and standard)
    -metric ratcheting gear wrench set (box end at both ends).
    -one large adj wrench
    -2' breaker bar, 1/2" drive
    -1.5' pry bar
    -one DVM, one IR temp gun
    -JB weld, five sticks of 3/32" welding rods (used with modified jumper cables)
    -duct tape, gasket maker, bailing wire
    -safety devices tire seal kit, tire inflator goo in a can
    -one 10' long, 14 gauge wire coiled up with alligator clips at each end, wire stripper, small assortment of butt splicers, spade connectors.
    -flashlight - Streamlight rechargeable type, small and bright, mounted inside the glove box permanently
    -1/2" impact gun, 3/8" butterfly impact, tool oil in a dropper thing, coiled up air hose, tire deflators, tire press gauge, blow off gun, tire inflation chuck. The 3/8" butterfly doubles as the Margarita blender motor.
    - 12vdc powered fluor work lamp (similar to the ones for garage)
    -simple green wet towels in a dispenser
    -small can of wd40 (for starting fluid, cutting fluid, waterproofing, lubricating, etc)
    -small container of brake fluid, one ATF quart, two motor oil quarts, one gal of radiator coolant premixed with distilled h20, one small funnel with a long neck
    -one MRE, first aid kit, fire extinguisher
    -small butane powered torch with a solder tip. Usually used for starting camp fires more than soldering!
    -usual recovery gear (shackles, straps, etc)
    -one small plastic box with multiple compartments filled with various metric M8, M10, M8.8 nuts/bolts with 1.25 and 1.00 thread pitch, one lug nut
    -last but not least ....one 9MM GLOCK with one clip of hollow points, one clip of FMJs (17 round clips)
     
  9. Cruiserdrew

    Cruiserdrew On the way there SILVER Star

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    Dang Ali-Every thread in chat, and we're back to gubs!:D Actually, we frequently have Jeff's 10/22 on board.

    I carry tons of stuff and usually enough tools and parts to rebuild half my cruiser (working on the other half). My tool box used to be a small tool box, then a large tool box, now a large tool bag I can barely lift. I know where Land Cruiser lean comes from. Interestingly, I've used most of it, and given away lots of little parts like wheel lugs, caliper bolts, knuckle bits etc. No gubs in the cruiser yet, but I do have a small butane soldering torch with a pistol grip.:grinpimp:

    If I could add to everyone's suggestions-a 12 inch piece of chain and a long bolt with washers and 2 nuts that fits through the link of the chain. It works great for repairing a broken motor mount, especially if you drive an FJ60.
     
  10. aamiggia

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    Wow, that's a lot of stuff. I hope your truck never gets broken in to.

    I would try to scale back some overlapping tools:

    - Do you need to have 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2"? If you're doing trail fixes a set of wrenches and a 3/8" would work. For added toque use a cheater bar or 3/8" breaker bar. Bring along a 3/8" --> 1/2" adapter for special sockets. other wise take 2 of 3 and don't overlap sockets. For 1/4" carry 8, 9, 10, and 12 mm. For 1/2" carry 14, 17, and 19.

    - Do you really need a torque wrench for trail fixes?

    - A cordless impact driver will not put out more torque than a 1/2" drive and breaker bar.

    - A propane torch will never get a nut/bolt hot enough to help

    - And easy outs don't work for rusted bolts. They're gear more for general purpose and not automotive. They're designed for over torqued bolts that bust a head. Not for ones that are welded in place due to rust.

    Everything else looks good. What about some spare heater hose, coolant hoses, and belts? I would concentrate on the things that would tend to leave me stranded if they went.
     
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  11. semlin

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    OK, what is scary is that I keep forgetting stuff I already have. I do carry extra rad hose, fire extinguisher, plus zip ties, plus a funnel, plus a spark plug socket

    my list was not originally covering first aid/emergency stuff. I agree with the stuff listed and add a set of triangles and flares.

    Alia, your list may be heavier than mine. :D

    Andrew, the chain seems like a good idea. I don't suppose 20 zip ties will hold a motor mount :D

    Aamigia
    I have given up trying to second guess where only a 1/4, 3/8 or ½ drive will work with only a short or deep socket. I just bring all of'em.

    the cordless drill is for drilling out bolts or holes and always seems to find another use. not as an impact tool. it is prolly expendable.

    the solid shaft easy outs are not too shabby. i agree the other ones are junk i disagree on the propane torch. it is not useless on rusted bolts and I can also use it to solder in a pinch. Oh yeah, i forgot solder!

    torque wrench is prolly expendable. I bring it in case I have to swap a birf but there is no way the trail fix will be left alone when i return anyway..
     
  12. alia176

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    Yeah, no kidding...surprisingly, all of this stuff minus the oil bottles, fire extinguisher, coolant jug fit inside the rear drawer :D And my drawer height is shallower than most!

    Ali
     
  13. aamiggia

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    Semlin, I agree it's better to be prepared. If you have the room take everything.

    I never thought about breaking a bolt and using the cordless drill to get it out. Do you drill out the treads and then tap it? Or do the easy out actually get the broken part out? I have a few snapped bolts that I have to fix, eventually.
     
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    My moto is be over prepared, because you never know whats going to happen. Semilin, I like this thread going to put it in the FAQ if you don't mind.
     
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    My favorite: Snake bite kit

    If you're in the southwest, you'll be a hero when you finally whip it out for someone.
     
  16. GoOutSideAndPlay

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    Pretty good equipment list

    Front Seat Area

    Glove Box
    Advil, small dispencer
    Book, survival/medical
    Maintenance log

    Gear Shift Deck
    Cell phone charger

    Center Top Elbow Compartment
    Lighter
    Mints/gum
    Note pad
    Pencils
    Pens
    Sharpe

    Center Bottom Elbow Compartment
    Most of the time the glock and two clips (no clip in gun)
    LED tac light (2)
    Tums, small dispencer

    Driver Door Compartment
    Hands free kit for cell
    Thermometer/compass small combo tool
    Walking stick next to seat

    Passenger Door Compartment
    Multi-tool
    Mag light 4d
    Tire deflaters
    Tire pressure guage
    Wine key

    Driver Seat Back Net
    Cards
    Knot book


    Back Seat Area

    Passenger Seat Back Net
    Small kids games
    Diapers (behind baby seat)
    Wipes (behind baby seat)

    Back Seat Driver Side
    Fire extinguisher

    Cargo Area

    Cargo Bulkhead Driver Side Compartment
    Jack, small with accessories
    Jumper cables

    Tool Bag
    Breaker bar, (cheater bar), fits over all sockets and wrenches
    Hacksaw
    Hammer, medium, claw
    Hex wrench, angle (allen) metric and standard
    Pliers, needle nose, med regular, snap ring,
    Ratchets, 3/8 and ½ socket
    Screwdrivers, short and long, cross head and flat
    Sockets, adaptors,1/4m" to 1/2f", 1/2m" to 3/8f", 3/8m" to 1/2f"
    Sockets, 10, 12, 14, 17, 19mm 3/8" inch drive sockets short and deep (10 pces)
    Sockets, 21mm deep ½" socket (1 pce)
    Sockets, 3" and 6" 1/4 and 3/8" extensions
    Sockets, 54mm hub socket (1 pce)
    Sockets, 8, 10, 12 mm 1/4 inch drive sockets short and deep ( 6 pces)
    Vice grips, large and small
    Wrenches, 7-27mm, stubby and regular (no need for 15,18,23,25)
    Wrenches, adjustable (cresent) small, med and large
    Wrenches, metric ratcheting gear set (box end at both ends)

    Electrical Box
    14 guage wire (25 ft)
    Wires with alligator clips
    Multimeter
    Splices, butt (inline wire connector)
    Spade connectors (pickel fork shaped)
    Stripper/crimper tool

    Map/Documents Bag
    NM Topo/road map
    Compass
    Lexus maintenance guide
    Mechanical Pencil
    Pen
    Topo quad UTM grid overlays
    Maps for individual trips

    Random Big Tools
    Axe
    Bungee cords
    Ratchet straps
    Come along

    Main Box, grey plastic
    In order to more easily inventory this box, an IOU log is used to track what consumables are removed.

    Clean Box (Hygine/First Aid Items)
    Baby wipes
    Conditioner (small)
    Cotton Balls
    Dental floss
    Feminine hygiene supplies
    Fingernail clippers
    Insect repellent
    Lip stuff
    Lotion
    Mirror small (signaling)
    Mouthwash
    Organic/biodegradable soap
    Q-tips
    Shampoo (small)
    Sun screen
    Toothbrushes
    Toothpaste
    TP
    Unisex deodorant

    Medical Bag (Red Hip Pack inside clean box)

    Cleansing/Sanitation
    A & D ointment
    Alcohol pads
    Neosporin
    Pain/antibacterial spray
    Tea tree oil

    Medication
    Advil
    Aspirin with codeine
    Benadril
    Diarrhea medicine
    Electrolyte replacement powder
    Laxative
    Pepto Bismal chewable
    Tums
    Tylenol
    Misc.
    Cold pack
    Cotton balls
    Eye drops
    Gloves, rubber (4 sets)
    Hot pack (chem hand warmers work)
    Moleskin
    Plant irritant cream/wipes (oak, ivy)
    Q-tips

    Tools
    First aid book
    Scissors, medical
    Snake bite kit
    Thermometer
    Tweezers
    Wound Dressing
    Band-Aids (good assortment)
    Gauze (2-inch sterile(5) 4-inch sterile (5))
    Liquid band aid (or super glue)
    Tape, medical
    Wound cleaner, foaming

    Hardware

    Hardware box
    Fix a flat
    Motor oil,Quart
    ATF
    Brake parts cleaner (small)
    Brake fluid
    Coolant
    Fire starter solid fuel (trioxane tabs)
    Fire tender (trioxane,starter tabs,used dryer lint in film canister)
    Gasket maker
    Grease, white lithium
    JB Weld
    Sterno, one can
    Super glue
    WD-40 (Cleaning, starting , cutting , waterproofing, lubricating)
    Batteries (4)D, (4)AA, (4)AAA, (1)9v
    Bailing wire
    Candle
    Candle refills (2) in plastic bag
    Chem. lights
    Chemical hand warmers
    Duct tape
    Electrical tape
    Nuts n bolts: M8, M10, M8.8 nuts/bolts with 1.25 and 1.00 thread pitch
    Parachute cord (50ft)
    Paper shop towels
    Spark plug wire, one, long
    Spark plugs, 2
    Trash bags
    Zip lock bags
    Zip ties
    12vdc/120vac converter
    Can opener (P38)
    Eyeglasses, spare (in a case)
    Funnel, long neck
    Hose clamps various sizes
    Lighters
    Magnifying glass
    Saw, Folding, wood
    Sharpening stone
    Stakes
    Torch, small butane
    Tubing, clear plastic, 5 ft

    Mini tackle box
    Fishing line (wraped around bolt to save spool space)
    Hooks
    Bait (non-perishable)
    Weights (assorted sizes)
    Bobbers (two small)

    Sewing kit
    Buttons (assorted sizes)
    Needles (assorted sizes)
    Safety Pins
    Thread, military
    Scissors (small high quality)

    Recovery Box
    D-Ring shackles
    Hi-lift bumper adapter
    Hitch and pin
    Tow Strap (2)

    Soft Bag (small green duffel)
    Bandanas (4)
    Blanket (2, fleece)
    Foil blanket
    Gloves, leather mechanics (on top of bag under bungie)
    Kite
    Light warm gloves (2adult,2kid)
    Pants (2adult,2kid)
    Ponchos (2adult, 2kid)
    Socks (2adult,2kids)
    Towel (2, as per HGTTG)
    Underwear (2adult,2kid
    Warm hats (2adult,2kid)
    Warm long sleeve shirt (2 adult, 2kid)
    Web belt and clasp

    Emergency Food/Water Bag
    Water treatment pills
    Water (8qt 2qt/day/person)
    Food (5000 cal 1200cal/day/person)
    Hard candy (small bag)
    Power bars (4)
    Soup cans (2)

    Outside on rack
    High lift
    Shovel
     
  17. GoOutSideAndPlay

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    Heres the header for the list above. It wouldnt fit! LOL

    Truck Gear List
    The general philosophy of the well stocked truck is three fold. One, the truck should hold most of the everyday quick convenience things that you might need most anytime. Second, getting stranded. If the truck gets stranded with four people, it should hold everything they would need to survive one day in a wilderness environment. Once a year on Jan 1, food and water should be rotated out. Third, repair. The truck should be self sufficient in any environment and hold necessary tools and hardware to repair most breakdowns (and help others less prepared).
     
  18. rusty_tlc

    rusty_tlc Dain Bramaged Member

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    I didn't see a rachet strap on anybodys list. These work great to stop a wheel from drooping when you jack your rig to work on a broken birf. Also useful for broken motor mounts.

    Which reminds me I need to replace mine, I gave it away last wekend to a stranger who had lost one of his ATV tie downs.
     
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    JohnnyC Long ago TLCA# 2231

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    that is way too much stuff....all ya need is an OEM Tool Kit....

    come on now !
    it takes so much less room than all that stuff.
    :) :) :)
     
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