To lift or not to lift, that is the question...

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Hello...recently purchased an '01 100 with some fairly chewed up 16" alloys and in need of new tires. Got a sweet deal on some '06 LC/LX 18" rims which I now have in hand. Looking for advice, as I would like to upgrade the "look" of the truck without compromising ride quality (sound familiar?).

So a couple questions...I want to put 285s on the wheels for a little "beefier" look rather than the recommended 275/60/18s...any negative impacts of choosing the slightly larger/wider tire? I heard "maybe a little worse in the snow" and read that it might throw more stones up on the paint (although I don't believe 285s will stick out that much further). Any chance of the tires rubbing on the wheel wells with the factory suspension? Should I consider a 1" or 2" lift kit, or does that come with additional concerns? Would a small suspension lift even help with wider tires? Is that going to compromise on-road ride quality even further than just the move from 16" to 18" rims?

I'm sure these are dumb questions to most of you with a ton more experience...I bought larger tires for my V6 Jeep Wrangler 10 years ago and never had to mess with the suspension (was only doing fire trails that weren't too difficult in true off-roading terms), but that's the extent of my personal experience so I figured I'd ask here.

I'm sad to report that this baby will not see a lot of off-road action as we've moved back from Arizona and I'm 10 years and 2 kids older than my off-roading days, so about 97% of this will be for looks only.

Thoughts?
 
jayparsons said:
Hello...recently purchased an '01 100 with some fairly chewed up 16" alloys and in need of new tires. Got a sweet deal on some '06 LC/LX 18" rims which I now have in hand. Looking for advice, as I would like to upgrade the "look" of the truck without compromising ride quality (sound familiar?).

So a couple questions...I want to put 285s on the wheels for a little "beefier" look rather than the recommended 275/60/18s...any negative impacts of choosing the slightly larger/wider tire? I heard "maybe a little worse in the snow" and read that it might throw more stones up on the paint (although I don't believe 285s will stick out that much further). Any chance of the tires rubbing on the wheel wells with the factory suspension? Should I consider a 1" or 2" lift kit, or does that come with additional concerns? Would a small suspension lift even help with wider tires? Is that going to compromise on-road ride quality even further than just the move from 16" to 18" rims?

I'm sure these are dumb questions to most of you with a ton more experience...I bought larger tires for my V6 Jeep Wrangler 10 years ago and never had to mess with the suspension (was only doing fire trails that weren't too difficult in true off-roading terms), but that's the extent of my personal experience so I figured I'd ask here.

I'm sad to report that this baby will not see a lot of off-road action as we've moved back from Arizona and I'm 10 years and 2 kids older than my off-roading days, so about 97% of this will be for looks only.

Thoughts?

No worries; the 285's will fit fine with no rubbing even when flexed out. No real need for a lift unless you want more ground clearance or a stiffer ride. Or, you just like the way it looks. :D You will see a small drop in gas mileage, maybe a mile or two less per gallon. You will also feel a little performance loss when going to the 285's. I will say though, the 100 handles this much better than a lot of other 4x4's out there.

By the way, I'm looking for a second set of 16" wheels for off-roading purposes and I live in Louisville, KY. If you're interested in selling, let me know and I'll come by and pick them up. I have to go to Columbus on business occasionally.
 
Oh yeah, by the way, the 285's will not stick out past the wheel wells. So as long as you have the factory mud flaps on, you won't get any rocks into the paint.
 
Thanks for the quick reply, Greg...greatly appreciated. I think I'm going to sit on the 16"s for just the same reason...if I can get up the wife's permission, I'll probably throw a set of mudders on them and keep them in garage. If I change my mind, however, I'll be sure to let you know. thanks again...
 
A 285/70r18 is ~33.7" in diameter http://tinyurl.com/7dorx . A 275/60r18 is ~31" in diameter http://tinyurl.com/97upx

Aren't the 285/70r18s pretty hard to find though? What options are you finding?

To answer your question to lift? The question is not IF, it's WHEN. :D
 
Hey, thanks for the reply. The Discount Tire near me is highly recommending the Goodyear Forteza in a 285/60/18. They say they can get them in within 1 day, as they're supposedly in stock at another store in Columbus.
 
In our never ending quest to reach the stars... I would suggest lifting it.
 
My Cruiser still has Forteras on it from when I bought it. Nice quite tire. Good for the road. I'm probably going to go with a more aggressive tire like a BF All Terrain when time to replace though. One of my best friends is a store manager at a NTB, so I should be able to get a pretty good deal.

I thought about putting a lift on, but I really don't think I will be able to fit in my garage if I add more that just a little taller tire. Maybe my garage is just a little shorter than some of yall's.
 
Greg B said:
a stiffer ride

Listen to GregB. He knows this stuff though I hate the word "stiffer" regarding a lift. It depends on what components you use.

If you keep the stock T-bars (just re-set them to 2" lift) and if you add OME 2" rear springs (medium) and OME shocks (N133/101) your ride will still be VERY CUSHY.

IF you want a still CUSHY ride though one that drives and handles like a Sports SUV, then add the OME front T-bars too.

With that setup the 100's ride is improved 10-fold IMO. Here's pics of the latter setup with 285x75-16 BFG's: http://shottscruisers.smugmug.com/gallery/984541

It's when you add gear, upgrade springs, lift too high, etc....that your ride must become STIFF to support that weight. No really so with a basic 2-incher.
 
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