Tire Choice/Feedback - BFG T/AKO2, Grabber Red, Hankook Dynapro ATM

[sschruff]

So - scrapping my Fuel wheels/Cooper Tires. Bought a set of steelies from Onur and they're on their way. In the meantime, I have to decide on a tire. I'm going to run a 285/75r16. I've narrowed the tires down to:

1. BFG T/A KO2

2. General Grabber Red Letter

3. Hankook DynaPro ATM

I really want the Grabber Red's but the weight of those tires are everything but beneficial/attractive.

The KO2's are my 2nd choice - but like the Grabber Red's, that decision is 100% based on looks.

Which leaves me to the logical conclusion...the Hankook DynaPro ATM's.

Note: My rig is an asphalt queen and what little off road she sees is mainly fire roads, hard pack trails, and levees.

Be sure to cast your vote...

thanks-

Shane

 

[Output Shaft]

Funny thing about looks...
No one cares what anyone else's truck looks like. Just another truck.
But we are obsessed with what all our sheet looks like, as if it really makes any difference. We are all so vain! Every last one of us.

 

[Haggis]

I vote for BFG. I am on my second set with the 60, my third set with the Tacoma. Not too loud, excellent wear and perfect for the kind of mild wheeling you do. I wheeled my Tacoma on the Dusy in the Central Cal Sierras last summer and they did great. Brutal trail. I will admit they are so so in the snow. I think they look great.

 

[Output Shaft]

Now if your choice was the old KO's, I'd choose something else. I've used BFG ATs for over 30 years exclusively. Good all around tire, but those things have proven to be not too strong for me off road. Too many sidewall tears.
My next tires will be KO2's since BFG claims to have improved the sidewall strength 20%. Since a lot of highway miles is always a big part of my travels, and mud is a rarity where I drive, an AT tread works best all around for me.

 

[tonka az]

I liked my BFG's when I got them. Super quiet and looked so angry! After 6000 miles or so, the outermtread went away quick. I've been told the outer rubber is softer than most. That, plus being a dd, they wore down the angriness. I've been told to look at the Super Swamped Irok ND's. Apparently that are just as quiet but keep their anger for longer.

 

[sschruff]

Funny thing about looks...
No one cares what anyone else's truck looks like. Just another truck.
But we are obsessed with what all our sheet looks like, as if it really makes any difference. We are all so vain! Every last one of us.

WTF - bottle or pipe when you wrote this 'I'm depressed' nonsense?

 

[sschruff]

Any of you have experience with the Hankook's?

http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1309-biggest-little-tire-test/#__federated=1

 

[Godwin]

Anything round and black as long as it is not Hankook. I have had two sets of Hankooks, first on the FJ60 a set of 33 x 12.5 x 15 MT type tire. I purchased these tires based on good reviews on MUD at the time. Thing about most tire reviews is that the review is based on someone's subjective impression pertaining to a freshly mounted or low mileage set of tires. Any new set of tires will almost always be better than the worn out set coming off. These tires wore well, were not too loud, were poor in the mud. I racked up > 40k miles on these tires. Not bad but the sidewalls were weak and I had at least two of the four tires develop sidewall ruptures under normal driving conditions. As in do a tire rotation, drop tire to ground, and ssssssssssss, as the sidewall ruptures.

Second set purchased soon after the first and these were some AT style 285/75/16s for the FZJ80. These were used almost entirely on the road and had good tread life. At speeds > 65 mph a droning vibration would set in and I chased this problem for quite a while. Wheel bearings, knuckle rebuild, alignment, drive shafts, u-joints. The vibration was not consistent and as I worked through the 80 I could not track down the issue. The 80 was a relatively new purchase and I was catching up on maintenance so never considered that a new set of tires would have come from the factory out of round but that was the case. I did not discover this until we had racked up over 30k on these tires so I lived with it. Dumped these for some Coopers which have been much better.

Maybe Hankook has improved since my experience. Tires are expensive and I went with the 'Kooks at the time because they were less expensive and were receiving good initial reviews. I lived through two sets but never again.

 

[darwink1]

If youre looking for an angry or pissed off looking tire i dont think any at's will do the trick. Might sound dumb but id go with bfg km2s. I dd'd a set of 37s on my 80 and they did great. Just a little louder on the hwy than the duratracks i had on there before and they were siped slightly by the po so they actually impressed me during the winter. I have 40s on the 60 now and theyre great for all round use, no balancing, no beads in em and they track straight and vibration free on the highway.

Funny but while doing some work on my buddies heap in my garage we got to talking about the km2 and he told me he had around 65xxx km on the set of 35s he traded in with his old jeep. He wheeled them, dd' em, and had a trip to moab and back on them (we live in northern ontario so thats a fair hike) all without issue. He got the new jeep threw another set on and doesnt hesitate to recommend them.

Besides looks and better off road performance the other up side is youll be able to sell them down the line when theyre at about 50% or so and probably make a hell of a lot more cash vs sellin at's. Theres alway some young punk wantin new shoes.....

D

 

[TRAIL TAILOR]

Shane,

Andrea is on here 3rd set of Hankook DynaPro ATMs on her Armada gets about 40k miles per set (95% town/hwy). They are quiet and grip good, especially on ice and snow. I used to run them on my welding trucks too (60% hwy- 40% offroad, oil and gas roads) got about 30-35k per set. Never had a sidewall issue, and they wear evenly.

On one of my trucks I swapped out the Hankooks for the BFG AT and got 18k miles... went back to the Hankooks.

Now, the 80 has a set of older BFG ATs, bought them in 2008.... have 50k miles on them now and still about 1/4" of tread. They won't make this next winter though.

Generals came on all my 1-ton trucks when I got them... didn't make it 10k before they were trashed... NOT A GENERAL FAN AT ALL!..

J

 

[klinetime574]

I had a set of BFG AT on my FJ60. 33x10.5 on a 15x8 wheel. They were great for me. I got roughly 45k out of them and the centers were worn. I ran too high of tire pressure and did not rotate enough. I took them off road many times, no sidewall issues, just couldn't climb muddy hills as easily.

My spare is still one of the original All Terrains. I have Mud Terrains now and probably won't go back to an AT. The benefit off road is high IMO, and they look cool

 

[Krazytoy]

Take a look at the Falken Wildpeak's, I have had 3 sets of them and just recently went back to a BFG AT, both good tires, but I think the Falken was a touch better...

 

[Fj moneypit]

Everyone on the Tacoma forum raves about the Hankook. I've had bfgs on 2 other trucks besides my fj60 and always liked them in most terrain and definitely on road. They do lose their aggressiveness over time but so do most tires, that may depend on load range, not sure. If I didn't do bfgs I'd do cooper for ATs otherwise I'd run a mud terrain for aggressiveness.

 

[Chris Cahill]

IMO the BFG MT's look and perform best overall. I also have BFG A/T's on one of mine and they are fine for street use. Never been a big fan of them off road.

 

[SteveH]

In the past, I have had poor life from General Grabbers. I put BFG ATs on my '62 and am happy - very quiet offroad, smooth at 75 MPH, and do what I want them to do in dirt and snow. Not perfect, but no tire is.

 

[Mace]

The 60 has BFG at's. They have been on since 2008 as a daily driver and are starting to finally wear down.

My old off road racecar ran the General Grabber AT's. I beat the crap out of them and they held up well. My buddy has a set of the 315's on a Fullsize dodge, he loves them.

My Fullsize pickup has the BFG Rugged Terrains. So far, I'm really happy with them. That truck has had some firestones, A couple sets of BFG AT's, 3 different sets of Nitto Terra Grapplers and now the BFG Rugged Terrains.

I like the Siping on the Hankook tires, they will probably do the best on the street. However, I'd do the new KO2's as a test, they look to be a great halfway point between the Rugged Terrains and the All terrains. Woody has a set on his 80, and loves them..

 

[sschruff]

Shane,

Andrea is on here 3rd set of Hankook DynaPro ATMs on her Armada gets about 40k miles per set (95% town/hwy). They are quiet and grip good, especially on ice and snow. I used to run them on my welding trucks too (60% hwy- 40% offroad, oil and gas roads) got about 30-35k per set. Never had a sidewall issue, and they wear evenly.

On one of my trucks I swapped out the Hankooks for the BFG AT and got 18k miles... went back to the Hankooks.

Now, the 80 has a set of older BFG ATs, bought them in 2008.... have 50k miles on them now and still about 1/4" of tread. They won't make this next winter though.

Generals came on all my 1-ton trucks when I got them... didn't make it 10k before they were trashed... NOT A GENERAL FAN AT ALL!..

J

J - that's the general consensus I've rec'd about the ATM's from guys I know that are running them. At the moment, I've pretty much narrowed it down to the KO2's or the ATM's.

I've been running Cooper's AT3's for a while and no complaints - but want to try something new. We put a set of Hankook's on Mel's RX350 - loved them...quiet, smooth, balanced easily, and had about 30K on them when we traded it in for her current ride.

Any feedback on the 285/75 vs. 305/70?

MT's are not an option for me - absolutely wouldn't use them for their intended use.

 

[sschruff]

The 60 has BFG at's. They have been on since 2008 as a daily driver and are starting to finally wear down.

My old off road racecar ran the General Grabber AT's. I beat the crap out of them and they held up well. My buddy has a set of the 315's on a Fullsize dodge, he loves them.

My Fullsize pickup has the BFG Rugged Terrains. So far, I'm really happy with them. That truck has had some firestones, A couple sets of BFG AT's, 3 different sets of Nitto Terra Grapplers and now the BFG Rugged Terrains.

I like the Siping on the Hankook tires, they will probably do the best on the street. However, I'd do the new KO2's as a test, they look to be a great halfway point between the Rugged Terrains and the All terrains. Woody has a set on his 80, and loves them..

My guy at the tire shop tries to sell me on the Rugged Terrains whenever I go in - swears by them (ride, balance, longevity, etc.). He says the only reason they don't sell as well as other AT's is because they are quite mild in the looks department.

Heading up to the tire shop in a few - going to pull the Dynapro ATM, KO2 and Rugged Terrain to look at them side by side.

 

[Mace]

BTW, my rugged terrains are the 285/75/16 variant.

 

[EWTexas]

I have the ATMs...about 2 yrs and 15k. Good in rain and snow..only so so on ice but what ones are. I road mine about like you do and really like them so far. They work well in the mud and sand on the dirt roads out here in west Texas. If I have a bitch with them is on a gravel road their self cleaning threads sure throw a lot of rock against wheel wells but the design is to help in mud and it works. With only 15k can't talk to how long they will last but they look new so far.