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The making of an Iceland 80

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by T Y L E R, Nov 29, 2003.

  1. T Y L E R

    T Y L E R

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    I'm not going to go into written details ... lazy? Tired? Sore back? - pick one :p

    This is my friend Balvins :

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  2. T Y L E R

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    Here's another Icelandic fellas approach and results ...

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    Hope this makes a little sense to you guys ... as Baldvin used to tell me .. "Crawl under your truck and compare..."

    Cheers !

    Tyler - Copy and pasted out :p
     
  3. Junk

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    still not my cup of tea :flipoff2:
     
  4. T Y L E R

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    [glow=red,90,3000]FU2[/glow]
     
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    I wonder how many sawzall blade they go through for crying out loud! Saw the special on TLC and that was awesome too. Someday I'll have to try the lighter fluid-tire inflation-singe your eye brows- trick

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  7. landtank

    landtank SILVER Star

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    Ali, it's got to be damn cold out for that to work! Otherwise your just setting your truck a blaze :slap:
     
  8. ginericLC

    ginericLC Wagon Wheeler! SILVER Star

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    I've actually done the ether tire trick, not on my Cruiser, but on a backhoe. It doesn't work as easy as it looks on the TLC video. But, I also don't do it everyday. I've found that a come a long with chain squeezing the center works well for reseating the bead.

    They are neat trucks for their purpose. However, I don't have a purpose for one.
     
  9. Pitbull

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    Very sharp looking. Thanks for the post. Question, what does that do to the longevity of the birfields, wheel bearings and steering knuckles?
     
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    Pit,
    Don't think that birf's etc are an issue. Yeah, long term they will see more strain, but these guys are not doing any rock crawling. As stated above, nice trucks for their purpose, but I'm still not a fan.

    ... now if it had curtains, I would mistake it for Tyler's :flipoff2: :D
     
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    Unhuh , curtains ... 'cause of all the chicks I'm shaggin in the Starbucks™ parking lot :D :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


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    Lighter fluid works really well for reseating beads, a quick squirt around the bead, and light it from a safe distance, and BOOM!, bead on, make sure you leave the valve out, so excess pressure, and maybe some smoke will get out of the tyre, but as soon as the bead seats the flame goes out, because of the lack of oxygen to burn.
     
  13. FJ809496TLC

    FJ809496TLC 80 series addict GOLD Star

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    Great info Tyler. I am an Arctic Trucks fan. Is he going to open up a shop here in the States? :D. Christo, how about this type of conversion for other types of offroading? I know you are not a fan of body lifts. :cheers:
     
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    Is there any advantage to running tires on rims that would seem (to me at least) to be too wide for the tire? I thought that it was a better idea to run skinnier wheels so that you would be less likely to lose a bead at low pressure etc.. (not to mention looking less like a budget-bumped heep).
     
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    Shop Stateside ? Nope ! I did however contact a shop in Iceland that apparently makes the best flares ($$) . The manager siad he'd get on a plane , fly over with all the parts and a co-worker and spend a week in my garage modifying my 80 . For me , as much as I seem to be drawn to the 'look' , there are many obstacles that seem insurmountable . Of primary importance when considering such mods , is the inherent functionality underlying the design concepts -- Form follows fuction

    As alluded to a few times , these rigs have a near singular purpose in life . Traversing snow ... and Icelandic snow at that . While we North Americans focus most of our 4x4'ing might into the summer months , and rocks ... the Icelandic boys relish they're winters and glaciers . They actually make annual group sojourns up various glaciers ...

    I don't speak for Christo , but I think his business sense is well guided when he doesn't seek to stray from the trail most trod ...
     
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    I read an article a few years back where they took one of these trucks to the desert somewhere to see how it would perform on soft sand. It was the only vehicle that could be parked anywhere! Others had to be sure the terra firma would support the vehcle before stopping. At the end of the article they said that it was in the works to tweek the design slightly for the desert conditions and then start producing the for that purpose as well.
     
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    "Arctic Trucks Lead a Millennium Desert Drive in Dubai
    An Arctic Truck LandCruiser was shipped to the United Arab Emirates to see how it could perform in the deserts of the Middle East.

    Arctic Trucks Lead a Millennium Desert Drive in Dubai
    The annual Gulf News Overnight Fun Drive took place in the desert near Dubai on the 27th and 28th of January 2000. It was the sixteenth of its kind and understandably it was nicknamed the "Millennium Fun Drive". This big event, organised by Gulf News and sponsored by al-Futtaim Motors, was first held in 1985 with 75 4WD vehicles participating. The popularity of the Fun Drive has grown by leaps and bounds and in 1989 Gulf News added another dimension, making it a two-day event designed to give the UAE residents an opportunity to experience the desert.

    Testing the AT concept further
    With the aim to check if specially modified 4x4 vehicles which are superior in the arctic regions could also perform in the hot desert, al-Futtaim Motors, the distributor for Toyota in UAE in co-operation with Arctic Trucks Iceland imported the "Polar Truck" to participate in the annual Fun Drive. The "Polar Truck" is a Land Cruiser 80 series modified for driving in Antarctica in heavy snow conditions. Intended for use far away from any service stations the vehicle was designed and built to withstand use in extreme conditions and to be "self-sufficient". This particular truck has been driven thousands of km in the Antarctica, two times across the Greenland ice-cap and various excursions in Iceland. Now it was time to test it in the sand. In short, the truck performed extremely well, floating across the sand, where other 4WD vehicle sank, the suspension systems along with the bulky tires working wonders. "Normally, we have to adjust our driving in the desert to the harsh axle traps," Jehanbaz Ali Khan, a Dubai 4WD specialist commented. "Driving across the desert in an Arctic Truck, it seemed that there were no such traps at all."

    The first AT modified truck in the UAE
    Al-Futtaim Motors also supplied a Land Cruiser 90 (Prado) which Arctic Trucks engineers modified for 33 inch tires, a very popular modification in Iceland. The AT crew was supplied with outstanding facilities and assistance by the staff of Al Futtaim Motors during their stay and Arctic Trucks would like to extend their gratitude to company's Colin Leitch, Graham Pitcher, Calvyn Hamman and Paul Shewan, for their assistance with the project. The AT 33-inch conversion consists of changes to suspension, wheels, tires and bodywork. Behind every detail there is knowledge gained from years of experience in truck modifications where style as well as outstanding functionality is the key issue. The vehicle was exhibited in the desert at campsite during the Fun Drive. In the coming months it will be subject to further tests in the area to see how it performs in the desert, on the streets of UAE and last but not least how it will withstand the heat which can exceed 50 degrees Celsius during summertime. Given the that the vehicle will pass these test and there is a market for it, al-Futtaim Motors in co-operation with Arctic Trucks will offer these modifications to UAE residents

    "Outstanding experience"
    "Even though there are many similarities driving in snow and driving in sand, there are some differences" said Freyr Jónsson the technical manager of Arctic Trucks who drove the vehicle in the Antarctica and across the Greenland ice cap. "In the snow you don't want the wheels to start spinning while driving, on the contrary you can spin the wheels in the sand as long as you have some momentum. In the sand all the wheels have a very even grip compared to the snow where a vehicle with no differential locks can easily start to spin only one wheel in difficult situation. Momentum is more important in the sand than in the snow and flotation is much greater. Even though we can find lots of sand in Iceland it is very rare to find sand as dry and loose as we experienced in the UAE. This trip gave us a much better insight in what the challenges are and what kinds terrain you can face in these areas. With the right driving technique, unmodified 4x4 vehicles can be driven in the desert with airpressure lowered 16 to 20 psi." "Driving the unmodified vehicles you had to take great care to keep momentum in the loose sand. If you stopped in the wrong place you would end up helplessly stuck in the sand. The Polar Truck, on the other hand, had such a great floatation in the sand that it could stop anywhere. Even when stopping on a fairly steep upward slope in loose sand, we could shift into the crawler gear and the Truck it would spin the wheels without sinking, slowly moving to the top."

    "In our opinion the trip was a great success and the experience and knowledge gained from it will most likely prove invaluable in the years to come. We proved that the AT concept, at first glance, can function in the desert just as well as in the arctic regions of the world. We are very excited to see what further tests will conclude, but we are optimistic that the concept has definite opportunities in the region" said Emil Grimsson, Arctic Trucks' Chairman in conclusion
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  18. FJ809496TLC

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    Tyler, Was the front axle been moved forward? ???
     
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    I f'n love those Icelandic 80s. I would take one for sure. Those things would rule here in Utah. We've got desert all over and snow all over. 'Course I'm sure it's nothing like Iceland and the truck wouldn't do that great on the hardcore rock trails...but that's not really my cup of tea anyways--and they're got buggies for that. I for one think those trucks are BAD ASS!

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    [quote author=CruisinGA link=board=2;threadid=8186;start=msg69484#msg69484 date=1070247044]
    Is there any advantage to running tires on rims that would seem (to me at least) to be too wide for the tire? I thought that it was a better idea to run skinnier wheels so that you would be less likely to lose a bead at low pressure etc.. (not to mention looking less like a budget-bumped heep).
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    From what I have gathered reading about these vehicles, the idea is to have a wide footprint to try and spread the weight of the truck out over a larger area, as to not break through the snow/ice crust...

    -Steve