What is the difference between 'LandCruiser' and 'Land Cruiser'?
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What is the difference between 'LandCruiser' and 'Land Cruiser'?
Just a slight jab. I own a 40 and prior to 1991, they were titled "landcruiser" as one word in the manuals and brochures.
I know that my old Fj60 was also called "Landcruiser" as well. I think after the FJZ80, they started to seperate them out as two words in some parts of the globe.
It just an inside jab from a 40 owner. Just semantics now. Some call the FJ Cruiser a Land Cruiser.
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I went with the LC over the LX mainly because I honestly did not want a Lexus and the "stigma" attached with the brand. Same "gold chain" crowd some have compaired RR's to. Of course there is always an exception. I see lots more "soccer moms" driving LX's when really, a highlander or RX would suit there needs just as well. Now though, I really wished I had gone with the LX over the LC for a few reasons.
I get a couple of LR Enthusiast magazines based out of England and I rarely see any late model RR's fixed up for any kind of trail use. They leave that stuff for Defenders and Discos. The truth is, for probably 95% of the people even on this forum the LC is overkill in terms of their needs. That's OK for me though, in all honesty the LC really isn't built primarily for the US mkt. The "real" LC's are the bare bones versions sold everywhere but the US ! In the US the LC is more for image than substance, really. Like having a 911tt, do you really need a car with all of it's capabilities? You can't even approach them legaly on US roads. That though is a whole other topic of discussion !!
I get a couple of LR Enthusiast magazines based out of England and I rarely see any late model RR's fixed up for any kind of trail use. They leave that stuff for Defenders and Discos. The truth is, for probably 95% of the people even on this forum the LC is overkill in terms of their needs. That's OK for me though, in all honesty the LC really isn't built primarily for the US mkt. The "real" LC's are the bare bones versions sold everywhere but the US ! In the US the LC is more for image than substance, really. Like having a 911tt, do you really need a car with all of it's capabilities? You can't even approach them legaly on US roads. That though is a whole other topic of discussion !!
The truth is, for probably 95% of the people even on this forum the LC is overkill in terms of their needs. That's OK for me though, in all honesty the LC really isn't built primarily for the US mkt. The "real" LC's are the bare bones versions sold everywhere but the US ! In the US the LC is more for image than substance, really. Like having a 911tt, do you really need a car with all of it's capabilities? You can't even approach them legaly on US roads. That though is a whole other topic of discussion !!
Thats true. Rovers with the exception of the Defender and some Disco IIs aren't made for hardcore wheeling.
They're more "expedition style vehicles."
The same holds true for a LC100 "amazon" and the new 200. Sure, there will be a few who mod theirs (both Toyotas and Rovers).
The LCs that are used by NGO convoys are the 70s series and the hi-lux models.
However, if Moab is your thing then the more sensible approach is just to get a Rubicon and be done with it. A Rubicon is 1/2 or 1/3 the price of these lux-utes. The FJ Cruiser is more practical. Heck, my 40 is more practical. I just tow it with my current truck to wherever I want and have fun.
I also agree about the Lexus comment.
Why would you prefer the LX over the LC?
Also, speaking of 911's. A new Black with orange script GT3 RS pulled up beside me at the stop light this morning. Insane vehicle.
Also, speaking of 911's. A new Black with orange script GT3 RS pulled up beside me at the stop light this morning. Insane vehicle.
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I wish I had gone with the LX for Lexus' CPO program mainly. Toyota's is a joke. The next vehicle I get is going to be new. I have been stung too many times with pre-owned ones. Sure, you can get a new car that's a lemon but, at least I will know what and where that lemon has been for the most part !!
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FWIW, in Australia, it is still called a "LandCruiser." One word with a capital "C." This includes the new 200 series.
Speedmaster how are you liking your Range Rover Sport? I have looked at them more than once, and drove one and was impressed.
I like it. Cant really complain, the wifey loves it. Absolutely zero problems, then again, my family "never" had a problem with any of our rovers. We don't need the bigger size and it fits our needs.
If I had to do it again, I would do the full-size RR. The full size RR is so freaking nice with piano wood and piping on the seats.
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Good for you !! Don't give in to the "holier than thou" Toyota freaks (we know who they are) !! Like I have said (way) too many times by now....I like LC's and LR's. But, and I will say it again, LC 's cannot touch Rangies as far as classiness goes !! The world is big enough for both though.....
Now remember that I am a newbie, so maybe I am over looking things that others would care way more about, but my decision to purchase a LC had to do with what the vehicle could off the road then what it looks like sitting in a parking lot.
The other thing is that I purchased a Toyota because I KNOW that it is meant to go off road, and they have proven they can do it right! but I am smart enough to realize that they are not the only ones....just the ones doing it the longest
Don't worry about it. Mudders like to give grief, but it stimulates good conversation and learning (usually).
I will say that if off-road ability was your primary concern, as it seems from the above comment, there may have been other more appropriate choices (and not all of them MY2008 vehicles). But that's just my opinion. Now, if you really meant "off-road ability plus extreme reliability plus plush ride plus family-friendly amenities plus modern safety features" then I think you may have made the right choice!
BTW, of currently existing auto manufacturers, Rover has been in the offroad game longer than Toyota, and Jeep has them both beat (as Willys Overland). And if you really want to get technical, Mercedes has built off-road vehicles longer than any other existing manufacturer. The full-time 4WD "Dernburg Wagen" was built in 1907, and even had four-wheel steer! Take that, W.E.ROCK competitors! In 1926 they built the first three-axle truck, the G1 (though it was still technically a 4x6, not a true 6x6 - that came with the G4 in 1934, which also had locking diffs and synchros in the gearbox!). And of course, the original U25 Unimog first saw the light of day in 1947, with portal axles, two locking diffs, and a fully synchro'd box.
I don't know why I know useless s#!t like this. My wife says I should go on Jeopardy sometime.
Don't worry about it. Mudders like to give grief, but it stimulates good conversation and learning (usually).
I will say that if off-road ability was your primary concern, as it seems from the above comment, there may have been other more appropriate choices (and not all of them MY2008 vehicles). But that's just my opinion. Now, if you really meant "off-road ability plus extreme reliability plus plush ride plus family-friendly amenities plus modern safety features" then I think you may have made the right choice!
BTW, of currently existing auto manufacturers, Rover has been in the offroad game longer than Toyota, and Jeep has them both beat (as Willys Overland). And if you really want to get technical, Mercedes has built off-road vehicles longer than any other existing manufacturer. The full-time 4WD "Dernburg Wagen" was built in 1907, and even had four-wheel steer! Take that, W.E.ROCK competitors! In 1926 they built the first three-axle truck, the G1 (though it was still technically a 4x6, not a true 6x6 - that came with the G4 in 1934, which also had locking diffs and synchros in the gearbox!). And of course, the original U25 Unimog first saw the light of day in 1947, with portal axles, two locking diffs, and a fully synchro'd box.
I don't know why I know useless s#!t like this. My wife says I should go on Jeopardy sometime.
Yeah, you'd murder in the "Unimog" category.
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consider yourself validated!!!
I don't want to buy a vehicle that everyone loves right away. I want a vehicle that has to win people over. If I wanted looks I would buy a sports car and a penis enhancer( I know lots of guys who own Range Rovers) I will buy a vehicle that has performance and reliabililty as its main benefits. There is a reason why they brought back the FJ and it had little to do with styling. It was the go everywhere vehicle, and that is what made it Iconic, not the other way around. Idiots like me and my friends are taking those things to places we would have never seen had it not been for the FJ.
Buy the way. It is a Landcruiser, because Toyota put that badge on it. And Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and some smell better than others.
As Shotts pointed out( i know crazy, but he had point) anyone of us would be more than happy to Own one, especially if the payments were a little more "reasonable" to us. Sad as it may sound to the "purists," Toyota has to sell the thing new to someone who can afford to buy it. Since that excludes the Majoity of us(Sans DTT) they have to appease those buyers. Not us!
I will like most of you probable wait until it is three to five years old, buy it in great shape and then proceed to beat the s*** out of it. I will use any info from DTT and be thankful for his ability and desire to blaze the trail .
I don't want to buy a vehicle that everyone loves right away. I want a vehicle that has to win people over. If I wanted looks I would buy a sports car and a penis enhancer( I know lots of guys who own Range Rovers) I will buy a vehicle that has performance and reliabililty as its main benefits. There is a reason why they brought back the FJ and it had little to do with styling. It was the go everywhere vehicle, and that is what made it Iconic, not the other way around. Idiots like me and my friends are taking those things to places we would have never seen had it not been for the FJ.
Buy the way. It is a Landcruiser, because Toyota put that badge on it. And Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and some smell better than others.
As Shotts pointed out( i know crazy, but he had point) anyone of us would be more than happy to Own one, especially if the payments were a little more "reasonable" to us. Sad as it may sound to the "purists," Toyota has to sell the thing new to someone who can afford to buy it. Since that excludes the Majoity of us(Sans DTT) they have to appease those buyers. Not us!
I will like most of you probable wait until it is three to five years old, buy it in great shape and then proceed to beat the s*** out of it. I will use any info from DTT and be thankful for his ability and desire to blaze the trail .
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Right you are about the FJC. It most definitely fits its intended purpose as far as enthusiast are concerned.
It's a shame that we here in the USA cannot "build" a 200 in the way that "we" would like. Toyota is a company and its main goal is profitability. Period.
It's a shame that we here in the USA cannot "build" a 200 in the way that "we" would like. Toyota is a company and its main goal is profitability. Period.
Right you are about the FJC. It most definitely fits its intended purpose as far as enthusiast are concerned.
It's a shame that we here in the USA cannot "build" a 200 in the way that "we" would like. Toyota is a company and its main goal is profitability. Period.
Quite frankly, if they had the 70 series here and priced around the price of a 4 runner or FJC, I would jump on that in a heartbeat.
I think folks like Hummer and Mercedes and Jeep have proven the marketability of a tough looking vehicle. I'm sure the 70 would sell here. But, unless they called it something else, I think it would also dilute the "Land Cruiser" name and make it harder to sell it as a high-end luxury vehicle with outrageous profit margins. It's all about the branding.
My $0.02,
There are a lot of people who can afford to buy it, the question is ..... will they see $72,000 in value it. In my opinion, despite the fact it comes with a sweet engine and all kinds of tech items, seventy-two grand is a lot of money for a Toyota Land Cruiser. DDT likes it and thinks it's worth $72,000.....enjoy your purchase in good health. I don't see a seventy to eighty thousand dollar truck. In the US, they rarely advertise the TLC and it's a low-volume seller. They've now attached [what I consider] a very aggressive price-tag to it, and we're currently at $4 per gallon moving toward $5 per gallon. Big shocker....large gas-gussling vehicles are slower to sell when fuel prices head north. Coupled with a high price tag, I wonder if '08 TLC's will move at the same pace as '98 TLC's when they were introduced.
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