Maybe I can’t afford this car. Service advisor stated if I got a aftermarket parts I wouldn’t be able to use the O2 sensor and I will be stuck with an error code for the engine.
Temple Dealer wants $4,200.00 for a new exhort system, parts are 8-10 weeks out.
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Did you mean extort and not exhort?
You have options from new OEM to new aftermarket to used parts. You can also work to repair what you have or replace the whole system. Plenty of info here on mud on the topic including discussions of where to get parts, options for exhaust systems, etc. etc.
The exhaust system on my '97 with 300k is mostly original and working great. I've replaced some parts (gaskets, o2 sensors, hangers/cushions, hardware) and made a few repairs (welded the muffler hanger bracket back on) but it's made of good stuff and seems ready to go for years to come. You certainly don't have to pay $4k to have a decent/functional exhaust on one of these but you can also spend far more than that on the system if you want.
You have options from new OEM to new aftermarket to used parts. You can also work to repair what you have or replace the whole system. Plenty of info here on mud on the topic including discussions of where to get parts, options for exhaust systems, etc. etc.
The exhaust system on my '97 with 300k is mostly original and working great. I've replaced some parts (gaskets, o2 sensors, hangers/cushions, hardware) and made a few repairs (welded the muffler hanger bracket back on) but it's made of good stuff and seems ready to go for years to come. You certainly don't have to pay $4k to have a decent/functional exhaust on one of these but you can also spend far more than that on the system if you want.
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Exhaust system from after the exhaust manifolds down the whole thing.
Yeah, I was just making a joke.
After it's cooled off get under your truck with a good light and take your time studying the exhaust system. See if it's loose (broken hangers/etc.), has black streaking/soot from leaks, if there's rust-through, etc. and get a sense of what it may really need. Listen to it, is there excess noise from the engine, rattling, etc.? Are there holes in the muffler from rust? Figure out how bad it is and what really needs to be replaced.
Just because it looks rusty it may be ok, that could just be on the surface and not causing leaks or structural issues. The stock systems on these are well made and shouldn't be replaced without reason in my opinion.
Pictures of your exhaust and description of it's issues here may help us make recommendations.
Extort: to obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means.
As in, it's an attempt to extort your money from you.After it's cooled off get under your truck with a good light and take your time studying the exhaust system. See if it's loose (broken hangers/etc.), has black streaking/soot from leaks, if there's rust-through, etc. and get a sense of what it may really need. Listen to it, is there excess noise from the engine, rattling, etc.? Are there holes in the muffler from rust? Figure out how bad it is and what really needs to be replaced.
Just because it looks rusty it may be ok, that could just be on the surface and not causing leaks or structural issues. The stock systems on these are well made and shouldn't be replaced without reason in my opinion.
Pictures of your exhaust and description of it's issues here may help us make recommendations.
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You know it’s bad when you see a used 23 Sequoia on the showroom floor with 9,000 miles and the asking price is $99,999.00
Gotta love pricing matrix all these dealers bought into...
Most of the time it's not because of parts department choice/management; it's usually because of greedy dealer owners/principals or large corporate conglomerates looking to milk every last cent out of parts and service departments... (fixed operations always basically fund the dealership while the sales department gives away the ship).
Exactly. Dealt with this in German car dealers for many years. $12 drain plugs and $40 dollar head bolts look great to dealer principals. Seems to be the Dealer 500 mindset. As a parts guy, I hated it.
HO LI F%*k you are getting SCREWED!
Go after-market dude. You can get all the parts from the manifold back, including new support rubbers for $800 to $1200. They are soaking the S%$t out of you.
A Saturday and you'll have the new one in, unless the rig lived in the rust belt...that might require the weekend.
Go after-market dude. You can get all the parts from the manifold back, including new support rubbers for $800 to $1200. They are soaking the S%$t out of you.
A Saturday and you'll have the new one in, unless the rig lived in the rust belt...that might require the weekend.
@TheLastLatin : can you tell us what the problem is with your original exhaust system, sudden increase in noise, rattling, oxygen sensor/Cat codes, or does it just look rusty??
FWIW the original exhaust system on the FZJ80 is made of a very high quality stainless steel, they last about forever particularly in the Southern US away from road salt.
FWIW the original exhaust system on the FZJ80 is made of a very high quality stainless steel, they last about forever particularly in the Southern US away from road salt.
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I need to get a good look in the morning when the car isn’t hot. The video they showed me only pointed out “holes where there is white residue on the exhaust” with surface rust in most places. This was a California car until Summer last year, two family car, I am the 3rd owner as I got it from my parents. I don’t em think they ever even took it to the snow. The last ten years or so it was driven less than 20,000 miles and sat in the driveway. I’m crossing my fingers I can get away with just the main exhaust being replaced, as I don’t have that kind of coin for much else.
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Honestly if you think it is a good idea to take a 26+ year old vehicle to the dealership for a quote on repairs than I think you should go for it, pay the bill, and give the tech a 25% tip.
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Fastest easiest way to get all the part numbers that might be needed, didn’t cost me anything for them to look at it and give me a parts list but a little time. Thank you, honestly.
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@TheLastLatin from what you describe I will be surprised if much of the exhaust system on your 80 needs replacement. You may need a few gaskets/hardware, you likely need new rubber hanger/mount points and that may be it. Doing sensible repairs and keeping your current system will likely yield to better reliability long term than going with some, possibly most, aftermarket systems so I'd recommend avoiding the cost and hassle of making this transition if it's unwarranted.
Take some photos and share if you want more input and don't just replace the system unless it is needed or you simply want to.
Take some photos and share if you want more input and don't just replace the system unless it is needed or you simply want to.
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Yeah I'm not interested in spending coin I don't have. What started all this was my wife complaining about fumes or bad smell on the passenger side of the car when standing outside before she gets in. I have no error codes, the exhaust isn't loud by any means. When I asked them to take a look (I was there to buy some filters) I was thinking all I needed was a gasket or two.
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It appears your truck is a 97. That's good because there are aftermarket parts available.
Do you or can you do any of your own work?
The Toyota dealership is quoting Toyota parts from front to back. That covers them for liability.
However, odds are you don't need an entire system.
Usual places are that it cracks at the wye behind the RF wheel. Also the gaskets between cats come apart and the bolts rust out.
Your original exhaust is stainless steel but it is a grade that has surface rust.
Rock Auto has mufflers that work well.
O'Reilly's or Rock Auto have the wye and cats available in both steel and stainless steel. Difference is cost and longevity.
There are a few threads on this here. Search "$200 exhaust " to find a specific thread with part numbers and sources. Search with my username.
If yours is in CA make sure to get the correct parts.
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I was able to purchase 99% of the parts (rear O2 sensor is NLA) for my exhaust from one of the dealers who sells them at a discount, rather than a markup and also has free shipping on orders > $75. I'd post a link to the site, but they appear to be in the middle of "upgrading" their parts ordering system and it's not working very well this week.