Swapping AVMs to aisin? Is it worth it (1 Viewer)

[Squeegee]

So I’m starting to prep the 80 for a sand hollow trip in March and I’m trying to weed out all the possible issues. I have the marks part time kit and it seems like the AVM fans are few and far between, but no one explicitly says why. Are they made out of butter, does the engagement suck for some people? So far they’re fine but they’ve really yet to get a hot supper because the wheeling in Montana is so mild. So would it be worth it to swap to Asian hubs on a locked, supercharged, 80 on 35s???

 

[Squeegee]

Bump: info on these hubs would be great

 

[ajax1]

My buddy has had avm for idk 10 years, locked arb in the front on 42s, they should be the first thing to break in his set up. If I were you I would buy set Asians and keep um for if the avms snap

 

[Squeegee]

That’s pretty assuring, thanks

 

[Squeegee]

Well I’m moving on to Aisins. I torqued the AVM hub to 26lbs and it split.

 

[01loser]

I have a set of the "heavy duty"
avm hubs, I got those over the standard version as they're supposedly better quality. no problems with engagement or anything else I'm aware of.

 

[Squeegee]

I have a set of the "heavy duty"
avm hubs, I got those over the standard version as they're supposedly better quality. no problems with engagement or anything else I'm aware of.

I didn’t have any problems with my standards ones, I actually decided to keep them. Well until today

edit: these might have been the heavy duty ones

AVM HD Free Wheeling Hubs - LandCruiser 70, 80 series | Marks 4WD

AVM HEAVY DUTY high-performance HUBS are specially designed for off-road and 4x4 vehicles. Suits the Toyota LandCruiser 70 & 80 series vehicles

www.marks4wd.com

Is this what you have 01loser?

 

[01loser]

yes, I bought them as an option with the marks part time kit. cost a bit more but I couldn't run aisin according to them with the kit because of cv length.

I'm more than happy with them, no problems at all.

 

[Squeegee]

yes, I bought them as an option with the marks part time kit. cost a bit more but I couldn't run aisin according to them with the kit because of cv length.

I'm more than happy with them, no problems at all.

Ok, the previous owner of mine installed the same kit. I have rcvs in the front and should probably look into the shaft length for the aisins

 

[01loser]

pre 94 I think your OK with aisin, but I've been wrong before

 

[Squeegee]

pre 94 I think your OK with aisin, but I've been wrong before

Yeah I did some more reading and it seems like lots of people have made it work.

 

[Feistl]

I have heard there are fake copies of the AVM hubs in the wild... apparently Marks4wd haven’t had a single broken heavy duty hub come back with failure... (although that is the word of a sales guy)

 

[tacocat]

Ok, the previous owner of mine installed the same kit. I have rcvs in the front and should probably look into the shaft length for the aisins

I believe RCV birfs are short length, and you can run any of the applicable 6-lug Aisin Locking hubs no sweat, like the FHT-002 or black HD.

@cruiseroutfit has a really good break down and deacription in their thread.

Heavy Duty AISIN hubs, ready to ship!

What about the red or gold dial with the inner Longfield gear? Or the red/gold diar you only sell them in their stock form? What about those O-rings? the OEM ones doesn't come with them? ps: the black hub are originally from sidekick's right? 1. We can build any of our standard offering...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[bwakeling]

switched to Aisins when the AVM's were corroded and gross after only a few years. Aisins still look like a million bucks.

 

[Squeegee]

I have heard there are fake copies of the AVM hubs in the wild... apparently Marks4wd haven’t had a single broken heavy duty hub come back with failure... (although that is the word of a sales guy)

Mine came from their part time kit so they either sold me a fake one, or sales guy isn’t in the loop

 

[leonard_nemoy]

Now I am wondering what's on my rig. I thought it seemed weird that the locking part of my hub seems to be plastic. I will take a close up picture tomorrow in the light. I am guessing I have these AVM's. Maybe someone can tell me what I have tomorrow....

 

[gofast]

My AVMs started weeping grease on my fourth trip out. Swapped to Aisin eight years ago, and just locked up last Saturday. Never an issue

 

[01loser]

in the instructions for the avm HD hubs, it said don't use grease in then from memory.

 

[leonard_nemoy]

These have been on my rig a long time and I know they have seen some heavy use by the PO. The axles are Nitro axles, that is all I know.

Are they AVM?

 

[Squeegee]

These have been on my rig a long time and I know they have seen some heavy use by the PO. The axles are Nitro axles, that is all I know.

Are they AVM?

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They look like HD AVMs without the sticker put on