Hi folks, as promised I phoned over to Leatherique and spoke with Krysti. I formally introduced our organzation and per Beowulf's point, emphasized that we are a clean cut crew, of clean loving people (explanation for existence of i hate mud forum), who just want to take the proper care of leather!!! Tried to take that redneck reality out of our picture! Anyway, they are going to give us great rates and I will try to type them out here. For two pint bottles ( one oil, one cleaner ) the price is $30 ( i think that's almost two for one) For two quart bottles ( one oil, one cleaner ) the price is $50. ( i think that's also almost two for one) All of the dyes and all of the prepping products are going to go for %50 off. As far as shipping goes, Krysti requested that you take the time to call them personally, state that you are from the Landcruiser Club OR the "Landcruiser Forum" and they will give you the great rate and set the shipping for whatever it actually is to you! No extra handling at all!!! The proper phone number to use is 1-877-395-3366 and you should ask for either Krysti or George. So what this means then is that we have an ongoing group purchase price that will not expire and will not elevate, we also avoid all the handling charges, and we have the rate whether we're with a specific local landcruiser club, the national club, or even only with the forum. For those that call, as I quoted above, refer to the "Landcruiser Forum" if that is the method that is used to get good rates; that is what Krysti and George will listen for. And, for those that call, please take the time to thank them for the help in getting good rates. Hope this helps guys, let me know if you have any questions.