Steering still feels loose after all new control arms and tie-rod ends

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Well he was right about it being super simple to check! But my shaft moves perfectly with the steering wheel so I guess I can rule that out. Now I need to check the steering rack which means asking my wife for help. 😬
Based on these forums it seems a lot less people have issues with the steering column and it more or less relates to worn tie rods, rack bushings, etc.

Easy to check
 
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Well he was right about it being super simple to check! But my shaft moves perfectly with the steering wheel so I guess I can rule that out. Now I need to check the steering rack which means asking my wife for help. 😬

Or set up your phone or camcorder for video shooting and rock the steering wheel yourself.
 

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Haha. The car I have been driving the last few months is a 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT. Certainly not a sports car, but it has a sport steering mode which seems to simulate a tighter steering response. Could be that I just got used to driving that?

Regarding what feels loose, it just seems to feel like when the steering wheel is straight and I turn a few degrees left or right it doesn't respond right away. It does respond, but it just feels like a slight delay. Like I can wobble the wheel back and forth an inch or so in each direction and the rig doesn't really react, or if it does, it's delayed.

I have not replaced the sway bar bushings or the links and they are pretty worn down.
Check out @Ayune 's writeup that he linked. It fixed exactly what you describe in my '99. He shows how to check for the play, and it only takes a minute to see if that's where you have slop.
ETA: never mind. I just saw your reply.
 
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The stock rack bushings are pretty pathetic. Even when new I suspect they give the feel of a rubber steering shaft. I put in some polyurethane bushings and I was blown away at the improvement. Mine had 210k on them when I pulled them out, or rather, allowed the remnants of what once were bushings to fall out.
 
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Well, I finally got under there and had my wife turn the steering wheel and the rack is definitely moving back and forth a bit before the tires start to move. But it's definitely the whole rack that moves back and forth. It's not that big a deal to me, especially if all new bushings aren't going to be a massive improvement.
 
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Well, I finally got under there and had my wife turn the steering wheel and the rack is definitely moving back and forth a bit before the tires start to move. But it's definitely the whole rack that moves back and forth. It's not that big a deal to me, especially if all new bushings aren't going to be a massive improvement.
Bushings will fix that.
 

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Rack bushings seems to be your culprit here.
And I agree with @suprarx7nut 100 series steering while fairly precise and communicative for a 5000 LB truck, will never be among the best steering feels in the business. I alternate between a BMW X5 and my 100 and those two can't be any farther apart in steering feel and ride qualities!
 
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I just did the SuperPro spf2987k rack bushing set in mine at 184k. Made all the difference in the world. No more slop and not a bad install with an air chisel.
 

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Just wanted to post an update. I still have that loose feeling but after driving it I think it’s just what it is with this rig and a rack/bushings with 100k.

BUT I think the part with the steering wheel not returning to center might be resolved (or I’m imagining things and it was never an issue.)

I pulled it into the garage and cross-leveled and adjusted pressures with tech stream as one wheel was 3/4” higher. Maybe that wouldn’t matter but it seems to snap back to center a bit better now.
 
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Im back to obsessing over my steering.

More specifically , why would a brand new Toyota steering rack , bushings , hardware ,and tie rods still have about half inch / inch of play ?

Toyota says it's all brand new parts and that's normal of course.

Others on here have said go aftermarket d bushing but I can't justify the labor and cost to do that when I have new parts already installed.

Is there something that needs to be tightened or is the Toyota oem D bushing just crap and allows for play?
 

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Im back to obsessing over my steering.

More specifically , why would a brand new Toyota steering rack , bushings , hardware ,and tie rods still have about half inch / inch of play ?

Toyota says it's all brand new parts and that's normal of course.

Others on here have said go aftermarket d bushing but I can't justify the labor and cost to do that when I have new parts already installed.

Is there something that needs to be tightened or is the Toyota oem D bushing just crap and allows for play?
What size tires are you running? Can you confirm that the rack itself moves when you move the steering wheel?
 

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