spare tire/jerry can carrier?

[wheelerinthemaking]

hey guys i own a '74 FJ40 and i want to make a spare tire carrier for it, i was just wondering if you guys could give opinions/pics of what you guys have. I want to be able to store my jerry can with it (5 gal) thanks for all the help guys

Guy

 

[nat]

check out the threads in the 40/55 section. Some good stuff there.

 

[Mark W]

Here is a shot of my rear bumper carrier on my tan '40. In this shot it is configuered as a dual can carrier. The driver side swing arm can be removed and replaced with a tire carrier instead of gas can rack. The can racks also work well for coolers, Ammo can, duffle bags, or whatever (the shot on the latest cover of the TT shows the rig with cans on one side and a cooler, ammocans, snatch strap, chairs and stuff like that in the passenger side rack.

I've done this on a handful of rigs ('40s and '60/62s), but this is the only shot I have handy.

Most of the folks keep the tire carrier in place, but since I carry repair gear for the tires instead of carrying a 39.5x18 inch bogger on the back of the rig,and the distance of the trails I play on calls for lots of fuel... this is how the back f the rig usually looks.

 

[rove_mcanus]

rofl. you're never going to go thirsty!

 

[MrMoMo]

uh, that's odd, just making mine - perhaps it will give you some ideas on yours, and perhaps you could give me some ideas to finish mine!!

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?p=909968#post909968

 

[Mark W]

Odd??? How?

Your approach (from your link to your other post) won't work.

The door hinge will not suppoort that weight.


Mark...

 

[wantatlc]

I have one on my 74 FJ40 that that was made by Con-fer/Blitz. click my link in my signature to see it. seems pretty nice and sturdy. spare in center and jerry can on either side - swings out to side if needed. they are hard to find, but pop up now and then.

 

[mattg]

Mark, do you use the spindle/bearing setup for the pivot, or the solid stock with slip fit piece of DOM (and maybe a brass bushing)? Since that bumper is bolted to the rear crossmember, any issues with that amount of combined weight? Have you added supports/braces where the crossmember attaches to the frame rails?

 

[hudyhue]

hey marc ,anyway you can send me some pic s of that set up that is exactly what i want (options of rack/tire carrier)and im no where near a 39in tire so that will work sweet


thanks James

 

[hudyhue]

hey wheeler ?do you just want one can?if so look at the con fer type mounts in your spare holds one can. If you want something like that p.m. me and ill email you some pics,or you can have mine when i build my new one?

 

[LandCruiserSteve]

I picked up a right-side spare tire carrier from an earlier year FJ40 and mounted a pair of cans on them. Very sturdy and swings out of the way.

I'm not sure if your '74 still has the exisiting spare tire mount on the right side, but if it does, you could track down a left-side '75 or '76 square style spare tire carrier. (I think they went to the tube style in '77).

 

[wheelerinthemaking]

hey wheeler ?do you just want one can?if so look at the con fer type mounts in your spare holds one can. If you want something like that p.m. me and ill email you some pics,or you can have mine when i build my new one?

ya iv just got the one can on it and i might be interested in yours when you build a new one but it would depend on how much it would cost me 2 get it here ect...

 

[Mark W]

Mark, do you use the spindle/bearing setup for the pivot, or the solid stock with slip fit piece of DOM (and maybe a brass bushing)? Since that bumper is bolted to the rear crossmember, any issues with that amount of combined weight? Have you added supports/braces where the crossmember attaches to the frame rails?

I use a 2000 pound trailer spindle/bearing on each side (this is twice the rating of most trailer spindles that guys use). The swing arms are only half length, with a pair of one ton clamping force latches in the middle. The hubs for the spindles are made from schedule 80 pipe (not tube). The spindles run all the way through the bumper and extend out the top.
The swingarms are made out of 2x2 square tube with 1/4 inch wall section. The can racks are 2x3 angle with 3/16 thickness. There are 2x3/8 gussets under the racks.
The tire carrier is also made of 2x2 square tuve of 1/4 inch wall section with a 1/4 plate at the top with the wheel studs mounted through it.

The bumper is 3x4 tube with 3/16 wall section. It is bolted to the center of the rar crossmemember and additionally have mounts which extend through the original tail light openings to attach (welded) to the frame rails. The center of the rear crossmemember is reinforced significantly due to the potential stresses form snatch recoveries with the rear pintle hook.



The exact specs vary a little from one rig to the next, but this is typical. You don't want to go any lighter on the swing arms or the upright for the tire carrier.

I'm in the process of adding additional tail/turn/brake lights and reverse lights on the underside of the can carriers. Currently there are no reverse lights on the rig because I didn't want anymore cutouts in this particular bumper.


Mark...

 

[Mark W]

hey marc ,anyway you can send me some pic s of that set up that is exactly what i want (options of rack/tire carrier)and im no where near a 39in tire so that will work sweet


thanks James

I don't have any pictures of the system up close. Nothing that would show you how to make it.

Just understand that you have to use a stronge enough bumper and that it has to be securely mounted. You have to use strong enough spindles and strong enough structural members. You have to make sure your welds are good. You need good strong latches mounted in the right position to lock it down securely against vibrations. You'll want support under the can rack.

Missing any of these will leave you with parts of your setup and it's load on the ground.


Keep this in mind and think things through. Build it carefully and go for it.

Mark...

 

[wheelerinthemaking]

Here is a shot of my rear bumper carrier on my tan '40. In this shot it is configuered as a dual can carrier. The driver side swing arm can be removed and replaced with a tire carrier instead of gas can rack. The can racks also work well for coolers, Ammo can, duffle bags, or whatever (the shot on the latest cover of the TT shows the rig with cans on one side and a cooler, ammocans, snatch strap, chairs and stuff like that in the passenger side rack.

I've done this on a handful of rigs ('40s and '60/62s), but this is the only shot I have handy.

Most of the folks keep the tire carrier in place, but since I carry repair gear for the tires instead of carrying a 39.5x18 inch bogger on the back of the rig,and the distance of the trails I play on calls for lots of fuel... this is how the back f the rig usually looks.

that rack looks pretty wicked man i wont be goin with anything much bigger than 35"s so trying 2 mount a 39" tire wont be a prob for me. just wondering, does having that much extra weight with all the jerry cans mess with your suspention? or do you allready have stiffer springs or somthing?

 

[Mark W]

I've got a full floating rear axle under the rig so the extra weight is not a problem there. I'm running FJ55 springs in the back (soon to be up front too) and the Pigs had a lot more weight on the rear anyway. At the moment I am running booster coils as well. The way I have the setup, the rig rides very nice and the articulation is not limited. But I'm probably going to take them out again as the rig ride higher than I like. Once they come out it will sit about 1-2 inches lower than it does now

With the racks loaded with full cans (40 gallons), I figure I've got about 500 pounds more back there than when it rolled off the assembly line. Or I would except for the AL tub working to offset that. It's about a wash I figure when everything is factored together.


Mark...

 

[wheelerinthemaking]

wow, what kinda range would you be looking at with that much extra fuel?

 

[Mark W]

Believe it or not, on the highway with the tires at 20psi I get about 12 mpg. So on the road, about 670 best case. But on the trail, in low range all day long with the tires at 8 psi (they roll over the ground like melted marshmellows at that pressure and take a LOT of power to move)... only about 5 mpg.

So if I top off near the trailhead (one of my two favorite areas has a road house about mile from the trailhead... In the case of the other area the nearest fule is twenty miles from the trailhead)... It only works out to about 280 miles. Less if I'm coming out late and need to make sure I've got fuel for the 100 mile run back to town (the roadhouse closes at 10:00 pm).


Mark...

 

[REZARF]

hey guys i own a '74 FJ40 and i want to make a spare tire carrier for it, i was just wondering if you guys could give opinions/pics of what you guys have. I want to be able to store my jerry can with it (5 gal) thanks for all the help guys

Guy

Guy, what size tire are you going to be running. The earlier style carriers are fine for stock sized tires, and adding a Jerry can you should still be okay.

If you are running say a 33x12.5 with the earlier style (non tube) you will get a good bit of flex in the stock carrier. I have no experience with the later tube style racks. They may hold a bigger tire without as much flex.

Mark... sweet rig!

Rezarf <><

 

[Mark W]

Thanks.

I'm pretty happy with it so far. It's not done, but it won't see any more major changes until after the Trek this year.


Mark...