The center sleeve of the bushings needs to clamp against the bracket. In a previous thread you were asking about alternate ways to cut the bracket. I stressed this to you several times and showed you pictures.hi rick. thanks for this. i will try to get under there and get pics. one side is definitely looser than the other i have to admit. more than i www happy about.
but just for my peace of mind, what is the issue here? the bolts hold the plates together?
but if you don't have the flange actually bearing top, front and back on the bolts there is slop in there that you will feel? and if you stitch the plates you take out this slop?
also i'd like to just do some math. what is the correlation between degree of caster correction and inches of lift again. i have it here somewhere.
you are saying the 2.5" lift plates provide 4 degrees of caster correction? so it was 1" lift was 1.5 degrees of caster correction?
so i was at -1.2/-1.6 and i'm now at +2.8/+2.4?
thanks rick.The center sleeve of the bushings needs to clamp against the bracket. In a previous thread you were asking about alternate ways to cut the bracket. I stressed this to you several times and showed you pictures.
If the notches are too big the bushings won’t get clamped in place so the arms will move side to side and add to that the fact that you haven’t finished the install by securing the plates to the brackets by welding them in place is concerning.
I think you need to move on from trying to understand the geometry behind the modification and focus on providing accurate answers to questions asked.
thanks man.This thread pushed me to pour two fingers of The Balvenie single malt, neat.
I’ve got Rick’s 2.5 plates as well, I installed them after replacing my worn out original suspension with an Iron Man 2” lift. My ride heights were pretty close to yours and I had plenty of caster and the truck handled great. But time passed and I picked up some lightly used Dobinsons VT146’s and 147’s which sat in the garage for a year. After adding a Shortbus and winch to the front and Labs rear bumper I swapped out the springs and added the Dobs IMS shocks. I’m sitting at 23.75” up front and a hair over 24 out back, the truck still handles fine and tracks straight although the steering touch is lighter. I’m probably a little short of caster now but I have no vibes so I’m not going to mess with it. Point being I think your caster has to be good unless you didn’t mark your spots right and made a mistake grinding out the slots. If your worried about it, get the truck aligned now that you have the suspension in place so you are playing with actual #’s.
Thanks for the pics, I don't need anyone getting hurt. You did a good job with the install, now please stitch the plates.thanks rick.
not sure if i have answered all the questions here but if i have not please let me know and i will answer it. also i am interested in you or someone else breaking your explanation down for me so i am sure i understand it though.
"The center sleeve of the bushings needs to clamp against the bracket...If the notches are too big the bushings won’t get clamped in place so the arms will move side to side."
i think what you are saying is that the metal core in the bushing needs to still bear against the brackets after you cut the notch or the inner core of the bushing will slip around "laterally" or "left to right"?
i mean i think this is what you are saying since everything else seems to me to be captured.
you are saying the bushing can be captured (as it seems to be here) by the bolted plates but that inside of this the inner metal core could slip around if there isn't enough bracket left to bear on?
maybe someone else can explain it?(!)
i mean you are not saying that a slightly oversized bitch is going to introduce slip front to back or side to side are you?(!)
hi rickThanks for the pics, I don't need anyone getting hurt. You did a good job with the install, now please stitch the plates.
One of the more common issues that results in what you are describing is with the panhards. Have somebody sit in the truck with the wheels point straight forward. Have them place their hand at 12:00 on the steering wheel and then turn the wheel back and fourth between 10:00 and 2:00 while you feel for play at the front panhard bushings.
Why would you post pictures pulled from my guide when I asked specifically for pictures of what you did. Back off the nuts, remove a plate an take a picture. It's probably 10 minutes of your life to make sure you don't kill somebody. STOP POSTING IRRELEVANT PICTURES!! It's not helping.hi rick
thanks for the help here.
i was going to stitch the plates when i got the panhard bracket put on. unfortunately life got in the way.
just to be clear the pics i posted with the bolts and the grinder are from your 2.5 plate install document. they are not from my rig.
You can't have one of his posts without several irrelevant pictures. And sometimes screen shots of the pictures in that very thread. Just the way it is.Why would you post pictures pulled from my guide when I asked specifically for pictures of what you did. Back off the nuts, remove a plate an take a picture. It's probably 10 minutes of your life to make sure you don't kill somebody. STOP POSTING IRRELEVANT PICTURES!! It's not helping.