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Well I was hoping to close out this thread with good news from the Referee, but no such luck. The visit with the Rio Hondo College Referee was a disaster. But of course, the emissions from the tailpipe we're waaaay below the maximum allowable!!!
The problems:
1. He did not like my Corvette manifolds.
2. O2 sensors (that are in the corvette manifolds) are in the wrong place.
3. Two OBD monitors are not set to Ready. The first one says that the O2 sensors can't initialize. The second says that the Evap system can't intialize.
4. He said the CEL wouldn't come on and throw a code when he unplugged the Air Flow Meter plug
5. He said that the PCM must be able to see the transmission selector signals, so it know's what gear it's in.
6. He said that the PCM must be able see when the transfer case is in low range.
So, What do I do? I can relocate the O2 sensors because I had the exhaust guy put a bung in the right place anticipating that this might be a problem. I need to chase down the OBD monitor problem, but Frank tells me that the failure for the evap system to initialize is a know problem, and his rig passed even though he had the same problem. I need to figure out why the CEL won't light, because It does work and it threw a code when I started it without the O2 sensors.
Is it possible to go to a different Referee after you've started the process with one?
I'll get through this one way or another, but your thoughts on the path of least resistance are appreciated!
John
Did he say he would fail u because of the corvette manifolds
Get the evap working. The transmission should have the mlps insralled. That should solve those issues. Sounds like aftermarket wiring/programming issues.
The rest of it sounds like BS.
Many people run the vette manifolds, and the Xfer case selector thing is BS.
There is precedent here... the nazi cannot do whatever he chooses, they must be comsistent. Call the ombudsman... communicate to the ref. that you have contacted the ombudsman... I bet his tone changes.
1. Could be that it is cause you have a 4.8 and vette manifolds ? I call it BS....
2. Have you ran the truck through the cycles.. it does take a while.. but I dont see why they should not turn to ready mode..
Find out what is the specific cycle for your engine..
I would imagine all LS engines run the same cycle....General Motors Driving Cycle
3. The evap should be allowed to be imcomplete provided there are no pending codes for it.,(see pic)
----> here and -------> here is where I got the info from and "THE" REF at Chaffey College brought it up in my initial conversation.
He actually called his supervisor and confirm this was the case...
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4. & 5. you need to check that out..!!
6. He clearly is talking out of his ass....the TC has nothing to do with an engine swap...or emission components...
John as you stated ..... these laws are subject to interpretation and this guy is f'ed up....
I would find out if you could take it to another REF....if you can then I say do it.. there is no point on trying to reason with this guy who IMHO does not now what he is doing....... that would be your path of less resistance....
According the the REFEREE PROGRAM, they are supposed to assist, not ding you for trying to make an older vehicle have up to date emissions...
Hi all,
I do not live in Cali but I did a 5.3 swap with 4l60e. Got the engine from BD Turnkey and there is wire provided in the harness he does that tells the trans when the transfer case is in low range...supposed to change the shift points. I just have mine connected to a push button and click it when in low range. I only notice minimal change, not sure if it affects emmisions or not.
Brian
How are the manifolds illegal. They are factory manifolds and are 50 state smog compliant. I can put whatever header I want on my vehicle as long as it is smog compliant.
As far as the o2 sensors go. They might not be working properly due to being in the wrong location. Take them out of the manifolds and put them in the exhaust.
I sure hope these manifolds are able to be used because I am using them for my build also. I have read a ton of CA ls swap builds and I have yet to see one that used the truck manifolds. They will not work.
I got the 2010 camero and they will not work for me.