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Those are awesome kayaks! What is needed for maintaining the wood? Do they also have wood frames and are they heavy compared to fiberglass or plastic? What's the pulley device on the rear of the longer one? Sorry for all the questions, but you mentioned you built them and they just look serious for paddling.👍

They are built from plans by Chesapeake Light Craft and don’t really require any maintenance. Construction is mahogany ply with 4 oz fiberglass over the hulls. My Pax weighs less than 25 pounds and the 16’ boat is about 30 pounds. Really light, fast boats. The rudder assembly on the pax is operated by foot pedals. Nice in a wind.
 
Here’s a triple CLC Chesapeake I built with my oldest daughter for her senior project 25 years ago. 21’ long and weighs about 75 pounds.

It came off the roof of the truck in Montana at one point and broke the last 3’ off of it. We repaired it with epoxy and re-decked it with old growth redwood and cedar.

With 3 people paddling you can damn near get it up on plane. 😂
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I live about 40 mins from Chesapeake Light Craft, I've had the pleasure of paddling some of their demo boats and I love to build one, one day. For now kayak fishing is a big passion so here are a few of my boats

feelfree - lure 11.5
Jackson - BigRig
Native watercraft - Slayer Propel Max

Wife paddles a Jackson Coosa

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Took the little Pelican out on Auke Lake last weekend. We're finally getting some summer weather here, with temperatures reaching the 70s. We paddled the entire perimeter of the lake, which isn't really much. Here are the lake stats: "It has a surface area of approximately 165 acres and is fed by five tributaries; Auke Creek is the lake's only outlet. The lake is about one mile long and 0.75 miles wide, and has a maximum depth of 101 feet."

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13 ft Meyers Sportspal on Caniapiscau Reservoir in Quebec. Survived MA winter without problems :)

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I had so much fun surviving on Caniapiscau Reservoir in Quebec in 2024, with its giant temperature drop overnight (from 80+ to 40-), storm, 4 ft waves, and fuel/ food/booze shortage that I decided to build a custom rig that will challenge the weather and take me even further away from truck than I was able to do in 2024. For the record, it was 4 days driving up north from Boston, 9-10 hours a day, and then 50+ miles on the water. One way.

The idea is to convert my 13 ft aluminum canoe to trimaran. I've got the Expandacraft 12' outriggers kit last summer:

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Didn't like aluminum beams, replaced them with 1.500 X 1.500 X 0.065 stainless steel squares that are better suited for repeating loads. Also not sure about 2'x6' aluminum planks. They need reinforcement for my configuration. I may go ahead and build my own platforms, side to side, so that I could pitch my solo tent and sleep right on the boat (another checkmark in life). Need outriggers and platform for more cargo load. Will take lot more gas, lot more food and booze and warm clothes next time. And a sauna tent :)

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My baby motor (Suzuki DF2.5S) took the beating well, but it was hugely underpowered for the boat. Max speed recorded was ~5.4 NMH (nautical miles per hour). During the storm the speed was less than 4 NMH.

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For the long range solo trips I bit the the bullet and got a 6 HP Tohatsu SailPro. SailPro version has propeller blades with more surface area, as well as smaller pitch. Theoretical speed is not as high as standard Tohatsu has, but it has lot more thrust. It is twice heavier, because it uses lot more metal than the little Suzuki uses. Also external 3G tank comes as standard. Refueling the tiny 0.3G tank on Suzuki, in 4 ft waves, on a swamped canoe, sucks.

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The transom takes only 3 HP outboard, I'm in in the process of seriously reinforcing it. Also need to raise the motor about 5".

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Killing the outboard is always a risk. Where I'm planning to use it, a dead engine is a warranted S.O.S. call and a following costly rescue. For a long time I was torn between buying a second baby Suzuki, or a bigger outboard plus... sail! :) Decided on the latter: a bigger outboard + sail. Got a canoe sail kit from sailboatstogo, with superheavyduty mast and 45 sq.ft sail.

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Can't say I like everything in it. It is fine, but where and how I'm planning to use it, it needs lot more meat. So I'm in the process of adding that meat to the boat.

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While the plywood glue settles, I'm training to shout ARRRRR and drink rum straight.
 
Getting in some field work this week with a couple of nights of light camping and paddling, except for the low water. Boats were some Old Town plastic kayak, and a late 1980s Mohawk Rogue which is more of a white water boat. Good weather, good water where deep enough, and quiet time on the stream, with the 80 as the support vehicle.

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Couple of whitewater Mohawks, a 15' Rogue, and 11' Viper. Ran a section of the Coosa River yesterday that can have some good rolling waves, if sufficient water is being released.

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Picked up a used 2001 Old Town Guide 147 from FB for $225. Might have been used a dozen times..super stoked!

Realizing just how useless the stock 4runner crossbars are.

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Last December @cruiserinsanity and I picked up a trailer-canoe-kayak package off FB Marketplace. The price was too good to pass up, $350 but because the seller could not break a $20 for two $10s I got it for $340. Photos of the deal are in this thread Mazda REPU Trailer Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/mazda-repu-trailer-build.1373721/

I was mainly interested in the canoe, a Mad River that hopefully was Royalex. It was not, it's a Triple Tough boat and heavier than Royalex. I've been trying to sell it on FB Marketplace for a couple of months. My posting here is not a for sale thread, just a posting about the canoe and what I'm dealing with. The boat is a little sun bleached and beat on, but for a cheap boat it's very serviceable. I grew tired of answering questions about it's condition so I wrote this ad:

"The abbreviated ad: For sale a 14-foot Mad River Explorer tandem canoe. $400.

Now here’s what this canoe embodies. First, it’s a Mad River, one of the most respected canoe manufacturers. This boat is constructed of their Triple Tough material, the composition the company began using after the demise of Royalex. Tough it is. The canoe has seen water, and a few rocks. The hull is scratched and sun damaged, but solid, no cracks, no leaks, so soft spots. Triple tough as the name implies, as it has laughed off the challenges of sun, water, and rock.

The bad: the outer layer is sun damaged and scratched.

The good: the outer layer is sun damaged and scratched. What does this mean? That this is canoe that you can use take to the river, hit waves, bounce off the rocks without worry because it’s been through it and has been proven, not just proven but triply proven.

Is this a canoe that you would use for a pleasant afternoon paddle with your favorite girl on the fish pond? Maybe not because she may see the rugged scars (chicks dig scars but maybe not the ones on this canoe) and be repulsed. Or perhaps you do take her for that relaxing romantic paddle on the pond and while she is coyly twirling her parasol and languidly trailing her fingers in the cool water an alligator rises from the depths and … let’s just say from this day onward she was known as “One Hand Hannah,” but only behind her back. Well, that would be a rude interruption to an otherwise pleasant afternoon, so maybe this boat is not for you.

The web seats are durable and a vast improvement over cane seats that are often sold with canoes. Cane seats rot out too quickly, web seats last. The missing thwart, aka crosspiece, has been replaced.

Back to the scratches. Just think about the pristine condition when this canoe was new with a shiny hull and that new owner took his, or her, boat out and, whack!, the first scratch. Oh, the tears that may have been shed. Well, that owner had you in mind and made the sacrifice of scratching the canoe and shedding those tears so that you will not need to. Think of that when you first take this boat to the water and offer up a quiet thank you to that previous, albeit unknown, owner.

This boat is ready for the Coosa to take on the challenge of Moccasin Gap. Are you a capable paddler that can dominate the waves of the Gap or will you swim? Does it matter? No, it does not. This boat is for taking it to the rivers and streams, ponds, and lakes and having fun. Since it has been put through the rigor of the rivers you do not need to be concerned about adding to its patina. This boat is a survivor and it’s ready for the next triple tough adventure. Are you ready to take this boat on its next triple tough adventure? It’s ready for you."
 
Last December @cruiserinsanity and I picked up a trailer-canoe-kayak package off FB Marketplace. The price was too good to pass up, $350 but because the seller could not break a $20 for two $10s I got it for $340. Photos of the deal are in this thread Mazda REPU Trailer Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/mazda-repu-trailer-build.1373721/

I was mainly interested in the canoe, a Mad River that hopefully was Royalex. It was not, it's a Triple Tough boat and heavier than Royalex. I've been trying to sell it on FB Marketplace for a couple of months. My posting here is not a for sale thread, just a posting about the canoe and what I'm dealing with. The boat is a little sun bleached and beat on, but for a cheap boat it's very serviceable. I grew tired of answering questions about it's condition so I wrote this ad:

"The abbreviated ad: For sale a 14-foot Mad River Explorer tandem canoe. $400.

Now here’s what this canoe embodies. First, it’s a Mad River, one of the most respected canoe manufacturers. This boat is constructed of their Triple Tough material, the composition the company began using after the demise of Royalex. Tough it is. The canoe has seen water, and a few rocks. The hull is scratched and sun damaged, but solid, no cracks, no leaks, so soft spots. Triple tough as the name implies, as it has laughed off the challenges of sun, water, and rock.

The bad: the outer layer is sun damaged and scratched.

The good: the outer layer is sun damaged and scratched. What does this mean? That this is canoe that you can use take to the river, hit waves, bounce off the rocks without worry because it’s been through it and has been proven, not just proven but triply proven.

Is this a canoe that you would use for a pleasant afternoon paddle with your favorite girl on the fish pond? Maybe not because she may see the rugged scars (chicks dig scars but maybe not the ones on this canoe) and be repulsed. Or perhaps you do take her for that relaxing romantic paddle on the pond and while she is coyly twirling her parasol and languidly trailing her fingers in the cool water an alligator rises from the depths and … let’s just say from this day onward she was known as “One Hand Hannah,” but only behind her back. Well, that would be a rude interruption to an otherwise pleasant afternoon, so maybe this boat is not for you.

The web seats are durable and a vast improvement over cane seats that are often sold with canoes. Cane seats rot out too quickly, web seats last. The missing thwart, aka crosspiece, has been replaced.

Back to the scratches. Just think about the pristine condition when this canoe was new with a shiny hull and that new owner took his, or her, boat out and, whack!, the first scratch. Oh, the tears that may have been shed. Well, that owner had you in mind and made the sacrifice of scratching the canoe and shedding those tears so that you will not need to. Think of that when you first take this boat to the water and offer up a quiet thank you to that previous, albeit unknown, owner.

This boat is ready for the Coosa to take on the challenge of Moccasin Gap. Are you a capable paddler that can dominate the waves of the Gap or will you swim? Does it matter? No, it does not. This boat is for taking it to the rivers and streams, ponds, and lakes and having fun. Since it has been put through the rigor of the rivers you do not need to be concerned about adding to its patina. This boat is a survivor and it’s ready for the next triple tough adventure. Are you ready to take this boat on its next triple tough adventure? It’s ready for you."
I was looking at a couple of Royalex canoes on craigslist this winter. They were not cheap, nor lightweight. Is there any advantage of Royalex over aluminum?
 
I was looking at a couple of Royalex canoes on craigslist this winter. They were not cheap, nor lightweight. Is there any advantage of Royalex over aluminum?
The biggest advantage I can think of is used in cold water. Aluminum is really cold on cold water due to its thermal properties.
 
The biggest advantage I can think of is used in cold water. Aluminum is really cold on cold water due to its thermal properties.
Grumman - yeah, perhaps. Sportspal (or Canadian Radisson if sold in US) is lined up with closed cell foam, it is definitely not cold. I have a Sportspal S-13, it was not cold at all in 40ish F waters.
 
I was looking at a couple of Royalex canoes on craigslist this winter. They were not cheap, nor lightweight. Is there any advantage of Royalex over aluminum?
Many - generally lighter, takes abuse while being flexible over rocks, quieter, etc. I know an aluminum boat can last forever, but have found the same from my royalex boats. My first I bought well used and was the lighter Royalite. A 14 ft boat that weighs 39 lbs. 20 years later (with use on flat water and rocky rivers) it remains my go to boat. Royalex remains pricey for good reason

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15’ Ed Howe built in the late 1930’s. According to my bathroom scale (which may also have been built in the 1930’s) it weighs 70#.

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Up to the Navarro again. CLC Pax 19.5, CLC Yare (first boat I built) 16’, and a Folbot. In rough conditions the Folbot has the best stability. Just kind of rolls with it.
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Getting in some field work this week with a couple of nights of light camping and paddling, except for the low water. Boats were some Old Town plastic kayak, and a late 1980s Mohawk Rogue which is more of a white water boat. Good weather, good water where deep enough, and quiet time on the stream, with the 80 as the support vehicle.

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You have a job I’d kill for. Figuratively speaking of course.
 
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