- Year
- 2009
- Vehicle Model
- 200 Series
- LX570
- Location
- United States
- Mileage
- 115000
- Color
- Black
Beware of these sewer rats. I'm about to start LCCygnus's sewer rat series.
Getting so tired of the scumbags that are involved in this industry.
I inquired about this LX and asked for undercarriage photos. While the undercarriage looked good, when i asked about any mechanical or cosmetic flaws I got the scumbag answer of "the vehicle's condition is in line with an 11 year old vehicle that was taken care of".
Not sure how many of you guys shop on eBay, but this is the exact same as an eBay seller saying nothing but "condition is used" in the item description as to exploit eBay's user agreement on item condition by using a blanket statement rather than getting off of their ass and giving an accurate assessment of the condition.
I asked again to be given an accurate assessment of the condition and got nothing.
Undeterred by the lack of description and distance between myself and the vehicle, I called in and requested a salesman different from the one who ignored me.
I got a slightly more eager salesman and a better description of the condition, as well as several other indicators of good compression which i would further verify later.
I decided to place a $500 deposit on the vehicle, with a drive-out-invoice signed by a manager, at this price+dealer fees:
I take off work, arrange a rental car, my household taken care of for a few days, travel costs, the whole 9 yards.
While showing a friend my future prospect during dinner the next night, i see that the price had increased by $1000.
I'm thinking to myself: they didnt really just do that did they? That cant affect or change my agreed upon deal can it? I mean, i already placed a deposit on it, with legalese stating that I effectively own the vehicle, signed by the manager.
I called first thing the next morning and confirmed their sewer rat status.
Their response: "Pricing shifts constantly, especially these days, and we have to make sure that our pricing is in line with market trends."
Of course, i told this scumbag that this imaginary market shift has nothing to do with me as i have signed a contract and demanded to speak with the manager who signed my invoice.
I get this scumbag on the phone, and he basically reiterates the same thing.
So I of course ask him that this nonsense doesnt apply to our deal, correct? The original price agreed upon that I placed a deposit on is still valid correct?
He tells me no, that I would have do pay the new price.
I told him that not only do we have a contract, but to say that the market has shifted UPWARDS during this pandemic is absolutely absurd. If anything, the price should be CHEAPER.
This guy tells me to look at the fine print on the signed invoice, and that I would see rjat it states "this is not an agreement or contract for sale".
Lmao.
I was like so what in the hell did i place a deposit on? I have given you money, i have made plans, i have taken off work, what the hell is the problem?
His response was more or less "sue us" being that he knew I was 700 miles say in ATL and before I could even get off of the phone I got a text confirmation that my deposit had been refunded.
I will not include what I said to the man (little girl) before hanging up but it contained very colorful language and the promise that I would be calling the BBB, leavng a harsh google review, blasting them on the land cruiser forum and FB.
I have no idea why someone would pull such disgusting acts like this over a whopping $900 other than they are hoping to tack on all of the dealer fees, document fees, lazy salesman fees and oxygen fees on top of the new price thus creating more profit than they could have gotten out of me.
I tried to find the link to post the VIN and the ad has since been swiftly removed.
I dont know if they removed it to let the heat die down if I were to make good on my promise to expose them online or if they quickly sold it to some poor sucker who wasnt aware that he was being artificially upsold.
Regardless, beware of this dealership if it happens to pop back up. If it does, i will probably be the first to know as I scour the earth for these vehicles day in and day out.
Learn from my situation - even if you place a deposit and sign a contract - they can still screw you and inflate the price.
If I get into another situation again, i am going to insist that the terms "this is not an agreement or contract for sale" be completely redacted from the invoice with no exceptions.
And even then, depending on how far away they are, I suppose they could STILL simply ignore it and say "sue us".
I really wish someone on this forum with some damned balls and a solid word would sell me his black LX already.
Oh well. Wish me luck fellas.
Getting so tired of the scumbags that are involved in this industry.
I inquired about this LX and asked for undercarriage photos. While the undercarriage looked good, when i asked about any mechanical or cosmetic flaws I got the scumbag answer of "the vehicle's condition is in line with an 11 year old vehicle that was taken care of".
Not sure how many of you guys shop on eBay, but this is the exact same as an eBay seller saying nothing but "condition is used" in the item description as to exploit eBay's user agreement on item condition by using a blanket statement rather than getting off of their ass and giving an accurate assessment of the condition.
I asked again to be given an accurate assessment of the condition and got nothing.
Undeterred by the lack of description and distance between myself and the vehicle, I called in and requested a salesman different from the one who ignored me.
I got a slightly more eager salesman and a better description of the condition, as well as several other indicators of good compression which i would further verify later.
I decided to place a $500 deposit on the vehicle, with a drive-out-invoice signed by a manager, at this price+dealer fees:
I take off work, arrange a rental car, my household taken care of for a few days, travel costs, the whole 9 yards.
While showing a friend my future prospect during dinner the next night, i see that the price had increased by $1000.
I'm thinking to myself: they didnt really just do that did they? That cant affect or change my agreed upon deal can it? I mean, i already placed a deposit on it, with legalese stating that I effectively own the vehicle, signed by the manager.
I called first thing the next morning and confirmed their sewer rat status.
Their response: "Pricing shifts constantly, especially these days, and we have to make sure that our pricing is in line with market trends."
Of course, i told this scumbag that this imaginary market shift has nothing to do with me as i have signed a contract and demanded to speak with the manager who signed my invoice.
I get this scumbag on the phone, and he basically reiterates the same thing.
So I of course ask him that this nonsense doesnt apply to our deal, correct? The original price agreed upon that I placed a deposit on is still valid correct?
He tells me no, that I would have do pay the new price.
I told him that not only do we have a contract, but to say that the market has shifted UPWARDS during this pandemic is absolutely absurd. If anything, the price should be CHEAPER.
This guy tells me to look at the fine print on the signed invoice, and that I would see rjat it states "this is not an agreement or contract for sale".
Lmao.
I was like so what in the hell did i place a deposit on? I have given you money, i have made plans, i have taken off work, what the hell is the problem?
His response was more or less "sue us" being that he knew I was 700 miles say in ATL and before I could even get off of the phone I got a text confirmation that my deposit had been refunded.
I will not include what I said to the man (little girl) before hanging up but it contained very colorful language and the promise that I would be calling the BBB, leavng a harsh google review, blasting them on the land cruiser forum and FB.
I have no idea why someone would pull such disgusting acts like this over a whopping $900 other than they are hoping to tack on all of the dealer fees, document fees, lazy salesman fees and oxygen fees on top of the new price thus creating more profit than they could have gotten out of me.
I tried to find the link to post the VIN and the ad has since been swiftly removed.
I dont know if they removed it to let the heat die down if I were to make good on my promise to expose them online or if they quickly sold it to some poor sucker who wasnt aware that he was being artificially upsold.
Regardless, beware of this dealership if it happens to pop back up. If it does, i will probably be the first to know as I scour the earth for these vehicles day in and day out.
Learn from my situation - even if you place a deposit and sign a contract - they can still screw you and inflate the price.
If I get into another situation again, i am going to insist that the terms "this is not an agreement or contract for sale" be completely redacted from the invoice with no exceptions.
And even then, depending on how far away they are, I suppose they could STILL simply ignore it and say "sue us".
I really wish someone on this forum with some damned balls and a solid word would sell me his black LX already.
Oh well. Wish me luck fellas.
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