Reuse lug studs - yay or nay? (1 Viewer)

[Spook50]

I've always installed new studs whenever changing out my front rotors on my 62. I would this time, but if I can get away with reusing them, I'd like to get the job done without waiting for a new set to be delivered. Just curious if this is even a wise move or not. If definitely not, I'll just get a new set ordered. Brakes are pulsating pretty bad though and I've got a set of new Brembos sitting in my shop that I can quickly throw on with new calipers in an afternoon. I'll be using a press to remove and install the studs. I don't do the lug nut or brass drift methods.

 

[Spike Strip]

My preference is to use new studs if they have to be pressed out. I have no reason for doing that other than they're what keep the wheels on ... I don't mean that to be flip, I mean I'm just too anal about such things to take a chance, though I'm sure many many people reuse studs (that look ok) without issue...

 

[Jdog]

When in doubt get em out!

 

[too tall]

I re-use studs whenever I have to. So long as you don't wreck the threads getting them out, they should be fine.

 

[brownbear]

with a known history of when you last did them and if they look great I would re-use them too. It's the studs you don't know about that I would change every time. Like when you buy a truck and do the first brake job.
If they are rusty at all I would use new also.

 

[Spook50]

Yeah I should've mentioned that these were put in about 6 years ago and I used a press rather than beating or twisting them in. Think I'll just go ahead and order new studs. I won't be able to do my brakes this weekend like I had hoped. Big storm coming and my garage is too full of other people's crap for me to bring my truck inside . So now I'll have to for new ones to be shipped.

 

[Prairie Swamp]

I'm as cheap as they come - but think about how many times wheels have been torqued, how many corners taken, etc. I put about a 20 year life span on them.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

I just installed the big brake kit on my 62 and re-used 4Runner IFS hub studs that I had. I was less than pleased to know I didn't order studs. Something I'll have to get to eventually.

 

[OSS]

While lots of people re-use wheel studs after replacing a rotor, there's not an insignificant risk of possibly stripping the splines down the road when trying to remove a tight nut.
When the stud gets pressed (or pounded) in, the stud splines round off their sharp edges a tad. Then when removed, more of the same. Then when reinstalled... more of the same.
A re-used stud definitely doesn't have the same grip on the hub as a brand new one. Whether it'll strip and spin in the future when trying to repair a flat on the side of the highway is the million dollar question.
Rusty/high friction lug threads will increase the risk.

 

[Randy88FJ62]

I apply anti-seize to lug nut threads and rust really isn't a big issue in socal so I guess I'm lucky in that regard.

 

[Spook50]

While lots of people re-use wheel studs after replacing a rotor, there's not an insignificant risk of possibly stripping the splines down the road when trying to remove a tight nut.
When the stud gets pressed (or pounded) in, the stud splines round off their sharp edges a tad. Then when removed, more of the same. Then when reinstalled... more of the same.
A re-used stud definitely doesn't have the same grip on the hub as a brand new one. Whether it'll strip and spin in the future when trying to repair a flat on the side of the highway is the million dollar question.
Rusty/high friction lug threads will increase the risk.


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Yeah that was my train of thought. Save myself the possible aggravation for the cost of a few bucks. Now that I have time to wait for them to be delivered I'm just gonna do it.

 

[FJ60Seth]

I apply anti-seize to lug nut threads and rust really isn't a big issue in socal so I guess I'm lucky in that regard.

I’m confident that you’re aware of this, but for those that aren’t, torque spec is assumed for dry threads unless otherwise specified. Applying a lubricant will decrease the required force to tighten correctly.

 

[Skniper]

I’m confident that you’re aware of this, but for those that aren’t, torque spec is assumed for dry threads unless otherwise specified. Applying a lubricant will decrease the required force to tighten to correctly.

Read......*snap*

 

[Spike Strip]

I've always used a *dab* of anti seize on lugs/studs and reduced torque by 15% (what is recommend) and never an issue. I've done this on all my vehicles including VWs that have the odd 'Lug Bolts'.

I also use a small amount on the knurling and under the head when studs are pressed in. Again, no issues, but as Randy sez, So. Cal. so it's not really a problem with rust.

If you use an Air Gun to remove/Replace lug nuts, there is a much greater chance at galling or daming the studs than if you do it by hand

 

[Cruzerman]

I've always used a *dab* of anti seize on lugs/studs and reduced torque by 15% (what is recommend) and never an issue. I've done this on all my vehicles including VWs that have the odd 'Lug Bolts'.

I also use a small amount on the knurling and under the head when studs are pressed in. Again, no issues, but as Randy sez, So. Cal. so it's not really a problem with rust.

If you use an Air Gun to remove/Replace lug nuts, there is a much greater chance at galling or daming the studs than if you do it by hand

I understand the anti seize, but why do you torque it to less than spec?

 

[Spike Strip]

As others said, lube lowers the torque spec as the spec is calc dry (more friction). Any nut/bolt where antisieze is used and there is a 'dry' torque spec should be reduced about 15-25% Some say as much as 30%. It depends on the material you're threading into or onto. Alum or Brass I'd reduce way down, like Spark Plugs into Alum head.

https://www.antiseize.com/PDFs/torque_specifications.pdf

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Seth,
yes, I am aware of the wet and dry torques. If you paid attention in my garage there is actually a chart posted for this.

 

[Spook50]

If you use an Air Gun to remove/Replace lug nuts, there is a much greater chance at galling or daming the studs than if you do it by hand

Yeah that's why I will only ever use a press. Smooth out, smooth in, straight shot both ways.

Giggity.....

 

[Randy88FJ62]

meh, hammer did fine. I looked over at the press and then slammed em in.

 

[Mace]

I almost always reuse studs.