Ressurect my 60 to be a dependable DD?

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This is my first post in many moons.

I’m here because I’m in need of guidance. My FJ60 has been out of commission for almost two years now. I had plans to replace the engine but once my son was on the way, my cruiser dreams took a backseat. I’ve toyed with selling it, almost had it sold a couple of times and even turned a couple offers down. Turns out I love the ugly beast, much to the wife’s dismay. Now my son is nearing a year old and the 60 continues to rot.

Currently, I can take only my wife or kid with me in my pickup. Assuming there are laws against tying down baby seats in truck beds, I’m in need of a dependable daily driver that can haul four comfortably which leads me back to the cruiser dream.

I’ve got an ‘84 with a decent body, no frame rust, worn interior, substantial rust on rear quarters, a sagging rear and warped tires. I need a vehicle that is safe and reliable. Other than regular maintenance skills (oil, brakes, plugs, etc.) I don’t have a lot of mechanical repair experience. I am open to learning, but can’t afford to have my vehicle to be down for days at a time.

Assuming a budget of $12k, could I make my cruiser into a reliable daily driver? SOR has a serviced 2F for $3200. I was ballparked $700 for delivery. A trusted local mechanic quoted me $1600-$1800 for just labor on the swap. That’s knocking on the door of $6k for an old 2F. For this price, would a V8 conversion make more sense? With a “new” engine, could I expect a good level of dependability? Would I have enough money left over to address the safety and cosmetic concerns as well?

I haven’t addressed all of the issues yet but instead of unleashing a torrent of questions, I’d just like to hear some opinions on whether or not my budget could get this rig rolling again, preferably looking decent in the process. Thanks.
 
$12k should be able to build you a perfectly reliable 60 in no time.

What is wrong with the engine in your truck right now? How many miles on it? Maybe a top end rebuild would be good.

$12k would go way farther if you learned to work on it yourself. Time and patience goes a long way.

Oh yeah, welcome back:flipoff2:
 
12k is a pretty big budget, but I think that you're thinking is wrong here. I think you'd be much better off splitting your money and using 6k to buy a reliable vehicle that can haul your fam in, station wagon, mini van? And use the other 6k to fix you're cruiser...if you want to work on it yourself and can commit to learning how to maintain it.

If you throw 5k into just the engine, you will still have an old everything else, trans, brakes, carb, interior, etc. All those things need attention on a 25 year old vehicle and with the second vehicle, you won't be stressing if the cruiser is out of commission for a few days. I don't think anyone will ever be happy with an older cruiser if they can't fix most of the small issues themselves.
 
I would have to agree with both previous posts. $12k will go pretty far if you know how to do some of the work yourself.

If you spent half your budget on the engine rebuild/swap you still have $6,000 for brakes, tires, any suspension that needs replacing. The rusty corner panel can wait. If this will be a family hauler a brake upgrade is in order. See this thread about a brake upgrade.

Decent tires won't set you back too much $600 maybe. Make sure the seat belts work and all of that stuff is in good working order. Little pieces to make the door work properly and what not are going to be junk yard items for the most part. I love the way SOR treats it's customers, but some of the prices on used stuff gets pretty high...search craigslist and the for sale section before you commit to non-returnable used parts from SOR.

Ultimately the answer is YES you can turn your cruiser into a daily driver. I wish I had 12k to spend on my cruiser to make it a daily. Do some research on what you want to do and take it from there.
 
If you have 12k there are some rust free 150k mile fj62s floating around here in Arizona right now for 6-7k with 3 inche lifts and 31s or 33s. Thats half your budget and you have a running vehicle lifted tires and a body that is immaculate not a spec of rust. The 62s also have automatics power windows and power door locks. That drivetrain is pretty solid up to 200k for sure usually 220k+ miles. At that point you could pay right around 7k and have a 5.3 and new transmission dropped in and you would have one heck of a vehicle for the money.
 
What is wrong with the engine in your truck right now? How many miles on it? Maybe a top end rebuild would be good.

$12k would go way farther if you learned to work on it yourself. Time and patience goes a long way.

Cracked block, thrown rod. Catastrophic. I'm willing to spend some time on it in order to save money. I've got basic tools and a two car garage. I want to do what I'm reasonably confident with. Thanks for the input!


12k is a pretty big budget, but I think that you're thinking is wrong here. I think you'd be much better off splitting your money and using 6k to buy a reliable vehicle that can haul your fam in, station wagon, mini van? And use the other 6k to fix you're cruiser...if you want to work on it yourself and can commit to learning how to maintain it.

If you throw 5k into just the engine, you will still have an old everything else, trans, brakes, carb, interior, etc. All those things need attention on a 25 year old vehicle and with the second vehicle, you won't be stressing if the cruiser is out of commission for a few days. I don't think anyone will ever be happy with an older cruiser if they can't fix most of the small issues themselves.

I think this is strategy is not bad but I'd rather have one reliable DD than two fixerups. Just my preference. I agree that an engine swap would just be for starters. Makes me wonder if all that money for another 2F is well spent. I appreciate the reply.

Ultimately the answer is YES you can turn your cruiser into a daily driver. I wish I had 12k to spend on my cruiser to make it a daily. Do some research on what you want to do and take it from there.

It seems like a big budget to me as well. I will have to sell my 5 year old pickup to make it happen plus pick up some extra work. Good call on the brakes, that is on my list. Safety and dependability are my priorities. Of the reading I've done, I'm most intrigued by the v8 swap.

If you have 12k there are some rust free 150k mile fj62s floating around here in Arizona right now for 6-7k with 3 inche lifts and 31s or 33s. Thats half your budget and you have a running vehicle lifted tires and a body that is immaculate not a spec of rust. The 62s also have automatics power windows and power door locks. That drivetrain is pretty solid up to 200k for sure usually 220k+ miles. At that point you could pay right around 7k and have a 5.3 and new transmission dropped in and you would have one heck of a vehicle for the money.

I'll be in Phoenix in June, so I'll keep an eye out. My preference is the manual 60. The pwr accessories would be nice, but I'm willing to do without. But I'm going to crunch some numbers and see if trading into another cruiser plus some mods within my budget would get me farther ahead.
 
What Kurtis said -

If you can spend $12K you can buy a really REALLY nice 60 or 62 for that and keep your current wreck for parts.

Just sayin'

Oh, and that SOR price for a "serviced" 2F is Bullsh!t... I had my 2F pro built by MAFs guy for $3500
 
Spike Strip, Kurtiss -

It's a fair point. Sentimental feelings aside, it's worth looking into.


Any ideas of a ballpark value of my wreck?
 
Spike Strip, Kurtiss -

It's a fair point. Sentimental feelings aside, it's worth looking into.


Any ideas of a ballpark value of my wreck?

I'd say $500 tops... 'cuz of blown motor... if you want to sell it whole. Depends, too, on where you are and how badly someone may need somethin' ... If you sell Private Party.
 
Keep your '60, and get another one!!

Scavenge parts off one to fix the other. It is amazing what you learn about a truck by having a duplicate there to disassemble and study. I have actually bought parts from a junkyard for the specific purpose of disassembling them to educate myself. Kind like a dry run before you tear into the real one. Get my point?

Once you have one good truck created from the two, sell the leftovers here on MUD.
 
nilpoc,

Is it hard to find land cruisers in your state? There isn't much on craigslist. In the Seattle area there is always 8-10 60 series for sale.
 
you can get a running rust free 60 for less than the 62s in Arizona. I would say anywhere from 4-5k would land you a very good cruiser.
I had a 62 then a 60. I loved the 62 but was getting married and 4$ a gallon gas forced me to sell. I missed it so much I found a 60 and bought it 6 months later. Honestly the 62 is in a whole different league as far as driveability and reliablility in my opinion. The 2f in the fj60 is great but on mine the smog equipment was constantly giving me grief as well as the carb. For me the 4spd and counting 0-60 in minutes instead of seconds was the real killer. Not having an overdrive and driving on the freeway didn't work well for me. I solved this problem by dropping in a 5.7 and 4l60e which now makes it my favorite cruiser but I was driven to this decision by my strong dislike of the 2f and 4spd. The 62 really made a great daily driver and around town car fuel mileage aside.

If you don't have 65 and 75mph freeways and drive mainly at 55 and under the 60 is fine. My wife and I really miss all the power options though even now.
 
nilpoc,

Is it hard to find land cruisers in your state? There isn't much on craigslist. In the Seattle area there is always 8-10 60 series for sale.

I see few 60-series in my area. I'd say they are rare around here. I'm willing to drive a few hundred miles to buy one but I will have someone more knowledgable than myself check it out first.

Honestly the 62 is in a whole different league as far as driveability and reliablility in my opinion. The 2f in the fj60 is great but on mine the smog equipment was constantly giving me grief as well as the carb. For me the 4spd and counting 0-60 in minutes instead of seconds was the real killer. Not having an overdrive and driving on the freeway didn't work well for me. I solved this problem by dropping in a 5.7 and 4l60e which now makes it my favorite cruiser but I was driven to this decision by my strong dislike of the 2f and 4spd. The 62 really made a great daily driver and around town car fuel mileage aside.

If you don't have 65 and 75mph freeways and drive mainly at 55 and under the 60 is fine. My wife and I really miss all the power options though even now.

I do have a stretch of interstate into work every morning. The few days that I had to take my 60 to work were a bit punishing. That and mileage are the reasons I was considering the V8 swap into my old wreck... but there would still be a lot to do to it once I have an engine. A "new" 60 or 62 might be the way to go. Still looking at the numbers.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I feel like this can be done but I want to do it right. I jumped into my current 60 without really knowing what I was getting into.
 
I agree with the other guys. With that kind of budget, I'd find one in perfect condition already.

But I wouldn't unload your old cruiser if it has sentimental value. You can find a used engine for just a few hundred bucks. Swap it in so the old girl is running again, and then make it a project/learning experience as you slowly restore it. That's part of the fun.
 
X2 on buying one that is ready to go- I'm in Shreveport and I have only seen 2 other 60's in 2.5 years- When I go West Coast (San Diego) I see that many before lunch. Rare they are in Louisiana.

Let me know if you decide to part it out- I have a 62 but I am looking for a 60 skid plate possibly.
 
If you don't have 65 and 75mph freeways and drive mainly at 55 and under the 60 is fine.


Why? i see 75mph in my 60 all the time. 2F & 4speed. sure it takes a minute to get up to speed, but once there it'll cruise at 70mph all day long.

an HF55 5 speed would be a great addition, but its not a game stopper
 
Why? i see 75mph in my 60 all the time. 2F & 4speed. sure it takes a minute to get up to speed, but once there it'll cruise at 70mph all day long.

an HF55 5 speed would be a great addition, but its not a game stopper

When I did 75 in my 60 I got 7-9mpg and it was screaming and that was about the limit speed wise unless you were going downhill. The worst though is going up north here in az. After i did the 5.7 4l60e my buddy and I did a test up to payson arizona from phoenix. This has some pretty good climbs. My buddy did it in his excellent running 60 with 2f 4spd and managed to keep his speed from dropping below 45-50 on the hill climbs and I did it in the v8 while maintaing 75 the whole time. We filled up right before we left together and when we arrived. I had 3/4s of a tank and he had a little better than a 1/4. Basically I got about 16 and he got almost 8. My 62 was somewhere in between when I had it about 11mpg. Cruising 80mph on the flat freeway was no problem for it either and the overdrive kept the rpms down nicely.

All around my 62 got about 12, my 60 got about 12-12.5 in town but no more than 10 on the freeway unless I was doing 55-60 then it would get 12. The v8 60 gets 13.5-14.5 in town and 15-17 on the highway. 15 if I do 80-85 17 if I stay around 65mph.
 
I have seen quite a few low mile 2f motors for sale for $500 or less. That and put a new H55F from the dealer and you will have a great start for $3k. spend $500 on rebuilding the front and rear axle and add new brakes. spend $100 on add-a-leaf springs to help out the worn out stock suspension and throw some new tires on it and it will be a very dependable ride. I get around 15mpg with the 5 speed and i will drive mine anywhere and i have got up to 85mph with it.
Cruisers are very simple to work on with basic hand tools and a tq wrench. Look up your local TCLA club and im sure there are people close that will be willing to help you.
 
Just to throw the idea out there. This is the typical cruiser you find on craigslist here in Washington. Maybe a cruiser from here is what you need and tow it back to Louisiana? Just a thought. You could probably go this route and stay below half your budget. Use your rig to keep the new one alive....or use the new one while you fix up the old one the way you like it.

1986 Toyota LandCruiser

It seems like it's decent. Personally I'd like to see it in the 2500 price range, but I'm a cheap skate. The AC isn't hooked up, but people in WA don't need AC the weather here is moderate and windows down usually cures sweaty arm pits.

The other thing I was thinking about was maybe if you could find a nice 80's series? I'm not putting the 60 down in any way, but the 80 is probably a bit more family oriented. Just a thought.

Here is the typical 80 series for sale in WA

1991 Toyota Land Cruiser Landcruiser 4x4

Anyway these are just my thoughts if I was in your position.
 
After i did the 5.7 4l60e my buddy and I did a test up to payson arizona from phoenix. This has some pretty good climbs.

Well, there certainly is no question which engine wins btw the two :rolleyes:

Used to live in Prescott AZ.. ive done that drive a few times. some great climbs.


I just took my Desmogged 2f Up the continental divide on I-70 up to 11,150 feet, and was able to maintain 50mph all the way up. if i had a V8 i'd be maintaining 75 all the way up. but, the 2F got me up there and did well. gas mileage? ;p lets not talk about that ;)
 

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