For Sale Remember the 75 Joeri had a while back?

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This is the real deal, I had so many people telling me they wish they pulled the trigger on mine while I had it for sale, you can miss out once on bad luck but if you miss out twice it’s something else ;)

Go get it these are getting harder and harder to find !
 
16k euro is just over $19,200 Usd. That thing could be stateside for around 23-25k. Low mileage and diff locks!!
 
fireball said:
16k euro is just over $19,200 Usd. That thing could be stateside for around 23-25k. Low mileage and diff locks!!
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You are forgetting the 25% import duty on pu’s, it will be closer to 30k when all is said and done.
 
Take off the "candycane" stripes, and mount a RTT on the top and you'll have a terrific overlanding rig! I have been in contact with this seller for a while now. For all the cost considerations outlined above, I have declined to move forward with purchase, but I do have a lot of information about the truck if anyone's interested. It's a PZJ, so the 5 cylinder diesel. Lockers are electric, not cable, so 8" front and 9.5" rear like an 80 series. It does have a little rust here and there, which is to be expected for a vehicle this age and in this climate, but it's not terrible. There appears to be a small hole in the floor on the driver's side, presumably due to rust, but the photos aren't super clear on that. I have two or three dozen additional photos provided by the seller and can forward them to anyone serious. I also have a contact in Europe who can bring it to the port for shipment if you like. The rest is just paperwork and money. :)
 
Yes, sadly, this is s thing, courtesy of the United States gubmint. Officially, if a vehicle is primarily designed to carry cargo, the import tax is 25%. Ouch. If a vehicle is primarily designed to carry people, import tax is 2.5%. Tolerable. There’s a lot of blurry area in between (is a van without seats in the back primarily for cargo? Yup. Even if the identical van with seats is for people. you’d pay 25% on the one without seats, and 2.5% on the one with seats). Remember the Subaru Brat? They put seats in the back to sidestep this tax. Initially intended (1960’s?) to ‘protect’ the USA auto industry from ‘unfair’ foreign competition (hence the total dominance of American built trucks in the USA), it’s beyond absurd this law is still on the books, but there it is. Google it. Write to your congressman. While you’re at it, let’s try and get them to change the idiot 25 year rule to maybe 15.
 
gilmorneau said:
Yes, sadly, this is s thing, courtesy of the United States gubmint. Officially, if a vehicle is primarily designed to carry cargo, the import tax is 25%. Ouch. If a vehicle is primarily designed to carry people, import tax is 2.5%. Tolerable. There’s a lot of blurry area in between (is a van without seats in the back primarily for cargo? Yup. Even if the identical van with seats is for people. you’d pay 25% on the one without seats, and 2.5% on the one with seats). Remember the Subaru Brat? They put seats in the back to sidestep this tax. Initially intended (1960’s?) to ‘protect’ the USA auto industry from ‘unfair’ foreign competition (hence the total dominance of American built trucks in the USA), it’s beyond absurd this law is still on the books, but there it is. Google it. Write to your congressman. While you’re at it, let’s try and get them to change the idiot 25 year rule to maybe 15.
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Interesting info. Sorry to go off-topic here. Would a Troopy be 25% or 2.5%? Would having seats in the rear matter? I've been thinking of bringing over a Troopy from europe (to have a LHD Troopy) and swapping in a non-garbage engine. Either way, I was eyeballing this 75 for a bit. Such a cool starter platform.
 
Technically, if a troopy is equipped with seating for 10 or 11, it’s primarily designed for the transport of people, so 2.5% should be right. However, in Europe, many Troopies were sold as ‘vans’, without any seats in the back (nor any provision to mount them), so would be classified as being for transport of goods, and thus technically taxed at 25%.
That said, it kind of depends on how you classify the shipment when filling out the paperwork, and whether customs even checks it, and whether they notice or care. A troopy falls into the gray area, sort of. A pickup, OTOH, can really only be argued to be for the transport of goods.
 
joekatana said:
This is the real deal, I had so many people telling me they wish they pulled the trigger on mine while I had it for sale, you can miss out once on bad luck but if you miss out twice it’s something else ;)

Go get it these are getting harder and harder to find !
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"Vintage" (80s and 90s era) 70 series seem to be getting harder and harder to find in general regardless of the platform, thus demand is going up worldwide. The price of that 75 seems to reflect that.
 
And I can get LHD 70-series pickups all day long with the 2H or 1HZ but people want mint 25yr old work trucks with 50,000 original miles for $15k.

Good luck with that!

Cheers
 
RMP&O said:
Not so sure about this 25% business, at the least it is not enforced.

I imported a pickup two months ago and paid 2.5%.

Cheers
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You got lucky then but remember the only ones that are allowed to go back in time and change the bill is the goverment, you or your custom broker made the mistake to bring it in as a suv and not as a pu. Remember you are bringing these in for resale purposes and do not want your customers to get any future hassle about this !
 
joekatana said:
You got lucky then but remember the only ones that are allowed to go back in time and change the bill is the goverment, you or your custom broker made the mistake to bring it in as a suv and not as a pu. Remember you are bringing these in for resale purposes and do not want your customers to get any future hassle about this !
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I don't think I got lucky but if you say so.

Cheers
 
Ford got themselves in hot water not long ago for bringing in "family vans" and quickly converting them into cargo vans, therefore avoiding the steeper "chicken" tax. I think it was those Ford Transit vans that are made in Turkey.
 
RMP&O--Joe's right, you got lucky. The law is very clear on this, and if you're going to import vehicles for resale, you should already know about it. If you don't, Google the 'chicken tax', as it pertains to importing light trucks. If you're saying on your import documents that a pickup is an SUV, then you are defrauding the US Government. Up to you if you want to try. I wouldn't.
That said, you are just a guy, not Ford Motor Corp, so the scrutiny the Federal Government gives you, and the stakes for them, are much lower. You could probably get away with it time after time. Not sure what the consequences would be for you (or your buyer) if you get caught, but why hassle with it? It only takes one Customs guy with a burr in his saddle to ruin your day (or worse).
 
gilmorneau said:
RMP&O--Joe's right, you got lucky. The law is very clear on this, and if you're going to import vehicles for resale, you should already know about it. If you don't, Google the 'chicken tax', as it pertains to importing light trucks. If you're saying on your import documents that a pickup is an SUV, then you are defrauding the US Government. Up to you if you want to try. I wouldn't.
That said, you are just a guy, not Ford Motor Corp, so the scrutiny the Federal Government gives you, and the stakes for them, are much lower. You could probably get away with it time after time. Not sure what the consequences would be for you (or your buyer) if you get caught, but why hassle with it? It only takes one Customs guy with a burr in his saddle to ruin your day (or worse).
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First, I never said anything about defrauding the US Government. Second, I was heavily scrutinized last container. Third, thanks for your info.

Cheers
 
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to imply that you were intentionally defrauding the US Gov't. It seems fairly clear that you weren't. Only saying that they needn't make such fine distinctions about your intentions. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and all that. And, you're welcome.
 
I thought the chicken tax was for new trucks
 
Nope. Per the US Customs and Border Patrol website:

Dutiable Entry
Foreign-made vehicles imported into the U.S., whether new or used, either for personal use or for sale, are generally dutiable at the following rates:
Auto: 2.5%

Trucks: 25%

Motorcycles: either free or 2.4%

The amount the importer is supposed to pay is determined by the Harmonized Tariff Code (HTS) that applies to the vehicle in question. It's a rat's nest of a system, but the importer needs to determine the correct HTS code for the shipment. Passenger vehicles start with the HTS subheading 8703 and vehicles for the transport of goods start at 8704. If you don't feel your vehicle fits into any of the established categories, or aren't sure how to categorize it, CBP will publish a ruling that makes the determination for you.
 
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