pinion and carrier bearing help?

[livelarg]

Ok, I'm getting a load roar from my rear axle when driving under load. there is play when I shake the rear yoke. I've got 250k on the rig, many of it hard miles.

So I need to fix the pinion bearing. and I might as well do the carrier bearing if I have to take it all apart. But that is expensive.

So here is my question, can I just have the pinion bearing fixed? or can I take the the third out and just take it to a shop?

to the point.......what is the cheapest way to get this done right?

Thanks

 

[Cruiserdrew]

There is no cheap way to rebuild a diff. There are 2 pinion bearings and 2 carrier bearings. Once you have it apart, you may as well replace everything and, well, rebuild the differential.

The guy you want to do this is @gearinstalls.com . Ken in Chandler Az. You can buy his parts through him or buy yourself through Cruiseroutfitters.

I would concentrate on the "done right" vs the "cheapest way", but Ken is a good dude and will work with you. Contact him though his website:

Gear Install Harrop

 

[wardharris]

There is no cheap way to rebuild a diff. There are 2 pinion bearings and 2 carrier bearings. Once you have it apart, you may as well replace everything and, well, rebuild the differential.

The guy you want to do this is @gearinstalls.com . Ken in Chandler Az. You can buy his parts through him or buy yourself through Cruiseroutfitters.

I would concentrate on the "done right" vs the "cheapest way", but Ken is a good dude and will work with you. Contact him though his website:

Gear Install Harrop

X2 - what Drew said - Ken is the Gear Guru

 

[livelarg]

I figured where was no short cuts. And it’s kind of an important part of the truck


I live in OKC, so ken in Arizona is a bit far. Lol

Thanks

 

[wardharris]

I figured where was no short cuts. And it’s kind of an important part of the truck


I live in OKC, so ken in Arizona is a bit far. Lol

Thanks

He does everything on his bench, shipped by Fed Ex in a Home Depot bucket.

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Yep. Ship 3rd member to Ken. Easy and done right.

 

[-Spike-]

He came highly recommended to me, so he did my install. He is meticulous to the extreme.

 

[Notch]

If you're going to beat on it a solid pinon spacer is a good idea too. The carrier bearings on the e-locker rear are so big it's pretty common for them to be in excellent shape even after a lot of use. There is nothing wrong with reusing perfectly good bearings if that's the case.

 

[livelarg]

Thank you for this info, that I can do

But.....I have never taken apart a 3rd.
So glad guess my next search is a step by step on how to do that!

 

[Malleus]

It's like most things in life, it's easy once you know how. Read the FSM, everything you need to know is in there. Do not skimp on the tools; you need them if you're going to do this work yourself.

I'd recommend you read the front and rear section articles in the Suspension and Axle section, even though you'll only be working on the rear. There's good information in there, especially since this is the first time you've done this.

 

[elhombre]

Go by the 4 wheel parts store in OK city and talk with them. If you pull the rear pumpkin yourself and give it to them, you can end up saving some good $$$. I am sure the guy in AZ has a well deserved reputation and will do a great job, but if that is not doable, 4 wheel parts is an option. They give a warranty. The one here in San Antonio has a Toyota guy with an old 40 and a newer 80 and knew exactly what they were looking at to do the job. Maybe your 4 wheel parts store has a Toyota guy like that too.

Pulling the pumpkin is only difficult because it is a heavy SOB. If you have access to a transmission jack that can be borrowed, it makes the job much easier. You don't need to jack the car up till you get the pumpkin is on the ground. You pull the rear axles out about 6 inches on each side with the wheels on the ground. Use a piece of plywood to set the pumpkin on so that nothing gets marked up from the hard concrete floor. If you have to pry on the pumpkin to get it loose from the housing, try using a plastic puddy knife first to break the seal of the gasket. If it becomes necessary to get more aggressive, tap a metal puddy knife in from the top. This way, if you mark up the gasket surface a little, it will be up high where the gear oil level doesn't come up to. Use the black silicone Permatx high heat gasket maker to put it back together. Take the entire rear driveshaft out to get you some room. And most importantly, do this outside when the wind is blowing, and it is in the mid 30's

 

[Cruiserdrew]

Easy to break the housing seal-just put a jack under the pinion flange when all the bolts are loose. Put a bit of upward pressure and the seal will come right apart. Don't pry apart with a chisel or putty knife. That will damage the machined surface.

And in my opinion, 4 wheelparts is a tire store for Jeeps. Maybe there is 1 good one out there but for the most part, they are not a place I'd have any work done.

You won't be taking the differential apart. You'll be removing it as a unit. Remove the driveshhaft, pull the axle shafts back out of the differential about 6 inches, and drop the differential. It's seriously 30 minutes of work. Maybe an hour if it's your first time.

 

[nukegoat]

Rotational play or axial or radial play?

 

[BILT4ME]

I have a 4WP location 10 miles from my house. I had them rebuild an axle for a 70 GMC K2500. It was EXPENSIVE. And I had the axle out of the truck and delivered it to them.

They have ONE guy that all he does is gear installs and setups. So far we have had very good luck.

I actually contacted Ken (Zuk) if he would do the install on our Dana 60 and he would not, however he DID offer LOTS of advice and pointers to make sure things got done correctly.

If I ever need to have my Toyota 3rds rebuilt, I will ship them to him for rebuild. He's that good.

 

[wardharris]

I have a 4WP location 10 miles from my house. I had them rebuild an axle for a 70 GMC K2500. It was EXPENSIVE. And I had the axle out of the truck and delivered it to them.

They have ONE guy that all he does is gear installs and setups. So far we have had very good luck.

I actually contacted Ken (Zuk) if he would do the install on our Dana 60 and he would not, however he DID offer LOTS of advice and pointers to make sure things got done correctly.

If I ever need to have my Toyota 3rds rebuilt, I will ship them to him for rebuild. He's that good.

Yup

 

[livelarg]

I’m called the shop, they said bringing the third in myself will save me about $200.
This brings the total to replace parts at $600.

Does that sound about a normal
Price for this?

Thanks again for all the help