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OK, who here has a speech impediment?

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  1. 72FJ40LandCruiser

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    I know with some of the imaturity here I am going out on a limb here by saying that I have a major speech impediment, but **** it. Make fun of me all you want I guess. Let me give some background on myself here. Ever since I can remember as a kid, I have had a speech impediment. In grade school I was forced to take speech classes while other students were in normal classes. They treated me like I was an idiot and just too STUPID to read the words. They would hold up flash cards and want me to read them. Sure, I knew what it said in my head, but I couldn't always verbalize it. I felt like an idiot because it always seemed like they felt I was too dumb to read the card, and that was the problem when it wasn't. Anyways, I stopped going to speech therapy, as it didn't help any. That was in 3rd grade. Keep in mind, in 3rd grade I was tested for IQ and was found to have a very high IQ and was placed in extended learning classes to help take advantage of this. I am in the genius IQ range, but who the **** would believe this, I can't even talk
    ?!?! HAHA I swear I could read the cards, but just couldn't read them alound. Anyways... I am a manager in a company with many, many employees, at the age of 20. I constantly deal with customer relations issues. '

    Let's get into the details of my speech impediment. Many people will stutter at the beginning of a word. For instance, take the word "teacher." Some will speak "t-t-t-t-eacher." Instead of stuttering on the "t", I will hold on the "e" sound, like "teeeeeeeeeacher." Or "peeeeeeopple", "Saaaaaturday", "maaaaanager", etc. I can't help it. I struggle so ****ing much with it. In every day life, I have learned to pick and choose which words I verbally use to help avoid this. But, with as many words as I do this on, it is impossible to avoid. As a side effect of this, I was always thought as the stuck-up kid during high school. All the hot chicks thought I was cute, but stuck up. When in all reality, I yearned each day to talk to them, but couldn't because as a side effect of my speech impediment, I had pretty much learned just to keep silent unless I had something very important to say because I was afraid I would stutter.

    Imagine this: You're a customer. You want to talk to the manager because of a problem. Up walks this 20 year old kid who looks like he barely shaves. You tell him about your problem and when he talks to you, he stutters like crazy. You try not to laugh, and think that he does it because he is nervous. You might even think that he is covering something up. You don't take him seriously.

    I run into this everyday. I run over a million dollar operation, but yet I can't even hardly speak half of the time. It's not because I'm nervous, either. I've been with my fiance for around 3 years and I talk to her about anything and evertything. I am of course never nervous talking to her and sometimes I think that my stuttering is worse with her. I don't ****ing get it. During high school I read about it some, and found that about 50% of traditional stutterers (the t-t-t-t-eachers) went away at age 17-18. I'm now 20 and have come to the harsh realization that this will not happen with me. To be honest, I have a lot going for me. I'm 20 years old, and make 32K a year (plus a bonus based on profit that could be anywhere from zero to realisitically $20K/year). I am 20 years old and have the potential to make 50K plus. But, this bothers me so much, and it has gone home with me every day since I was born. I feel that it really does limit me because I am unable to interact with customers/employees to my full potential because of this speech impediment. Sometimes I just wonder what the **** I am doing with so much weight on my shoulders and why I don't flip burgers for a living. I'm not even sure where this post is going, but am wondering how many others have a serious speech impediment, and how it impedes their profession. I always think that I should pursue something that I love and can do well (like welding, wrenching, etc.) but I already got going on what's in front of me. I need something that requires less people skills. I swear.... And my ol lady thinks I drink too much... I guess I have never talked too much about this subject with her and she doesn't know what I experience day in and day out with my job. My district manager recently paid a surprise visit to my store and said the store "looked awesome" and went on to compliment me on how the store looked and was running but he doesn't know or understand of the struggles that I face everyday. There are about 12 stores in my district, all more than million doller operations, and I am the youngest of all the managers that run them. It's nice to know that I run an "awesome store" when some 30-40-50 year old who has their s*** together can't do the same, but myself being 20 can. I don't even know what I'm saying, but am wondering who else feels that they are limited by their speech impediment. If I could get the damn words out I'd be a CEO in the works I swear. Now, back to my beer.

    I know on the front side that I'm going to get all sorts of s*** from people making fun of me for this, and that's expected. Let's get the stupid s*** out of the way so I can get to the real responses.
     
  2. treerootCO

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    I can't talk if I am thinking. Sounds odd but I usually have a second conversation in my mind running 100 times faster than the actual verbal conversation. I either slur words together or zone out. My dad can probably tell you that if you get me on a road trip I won't shut up but it is the only place I can really express what I am thinking. I went through the same thing you describe as being the stuck-up kid in school. I try to keep to myself to avoid sounding like an idiot.
     
  3. 72FJ40LandCruiser

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    I always have to be ten steps in front of the conversation to imagine where it might go and plan what I might say if it goes in said direction. Hell, maybe this is why at such a young age I developed a high IQ. If you ask me, I'd be dumb as a brick. What do you do for a living, and how does this effect you professionally?
     
  4. NorCalDoug

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    That's funny -- I used to think I was the only one who did that -- seriously. I used to do it all the time when I was young. I taught myself to turn off the second conversation, as you called it. It's not so much an issue anymore.
     
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    I think you'll find -- even with the amount of immaturity you see on other posts, that most here are good folk. I seriously doubt you'll get slammed.

    Have you looked into a professional speech therapist? There are newer techniques -- better than what you might have endured 10 or 15 years ago -- that might be helpful.
     
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    Have you guys ever known what you were going to say and dreaded a wod (like manager) because you knew that you were going to say "maaaaaaaaanager)? This is something that I can't just turn off. I try and try and try to push these words out of my mouth (there are thousands of these words that I have problems with) and still cannot do this. I sometimes feel like I am on the level of a mentally handicapped person with the IQ of around 50. They like to chew on their tongues. I like to figure out how I will make 8.92% net profit versus 8.91% net profit. Get what I mean? Hell, my fiance doesn't know exactly how I feel and about the stuggles I go through each day just to survive with my job. While I like to kid about ending it all, I removed the part about that, because I could never stoop to that level. Never could I have so much going on in my life that I would stop and say "**** it, I'm too stupid to live another day" and end it all. Sometimes I think about my situation and kid about it to myself, though.
     
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    OK, I responded to the original post, and saw you changed it, so...

    Steve
     
  8. 72FJ40LandCruiser

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    I don't know where the last post went to, or whatever, but I am just kidding about ending it. But, that lets you know about how much this seriously bothers me. I have recently searched online for speech therapists in this area and most sites I have come up with have descriptions like (I know this midget with a speech impediment who wants to buy a house...) etc etc. You can imagine what most searches for help with speech impediments go.
     
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    For what it is worth, read BB King's autobiography Blues All Around Me.

    BB had a terrible stutter growing up and overcame it through singing.

    Besides the stutter part itself, it is a really easy and enjoyable read. It deals quite a bit with growing up without being able to squeeze out a sentance.
     
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    When I was a child I remember riding in my fathers truck and him suggesting that if I got to a word that I couldnt' get out that I just sing that sentence and it would help. Sure, if I did that I could get the rest of the words out, but belting out some words in a song-type sentence after a couple words of struggling freaks most people out--they don' realize what's going on.


    I will try to find this book, as I am a fan of BB. Thanks.
     
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    I agree. 20 yrs. old is still very young and I certainly would not give up on speech pathology / therapy and other types of professional and/or "alternative" help. I would seek out and pay for the very best professional service you can get, even if it means driving a few hours once a week or so to see a specialist. Furthermore, the fact you have a fiance and a potentially successful career is obvious proof that you have redemming qualities that far exceed the impediment.
     
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    The sad thing is, is that I have recently tried to search for good speech therapists in the area. Some of the things that I come up with are "midgets with speech impediments." etc. like I am mentally handicapped, or like midgets are retarded. Good morale booster there. I will keep looking, though.
     
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    check this out. I saw some show on 60 minutes once about a device like this. It was very effective on the show. Not sure if this is the same item but it was very similar if it's not.


    http://www.powerstuttering.com/speech-easy.htm


    One more thing. I would look into your health insurance, it might (Might) cover a portion of the cost...who knows.
     
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    Everyone has difficulties in life, some are more immediately apparent but so what. Don't let it impede your life - is the only lame advice I can give.

    I think most people would look past it, try to help if you ask or at least understand you are having a bit of difficulty and give you a bit more time to say something.

    I don't know anyone that would even think of laughing at someone that has stuttered speech. That says more about them than you, remember that.

    Those types aren't worth your time anyway so don't sweat it.
     
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    I have English as a second language speech impediment.

    On a serious note, and I do not know if this is a real impediment, I can hear myself talking clearly, but others can't make the words I am saying. Either I am mumbling and I don't know it or others just don't understand me.

    And I do a bit of public speaking as part of my job... go figure.
     
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    I work in a technical call center supporting field techs. Mostly PBX corporate phone systems but that is quickly moving toward the data world. Stuff like servers and routers because of the advancement of VOIP. I can talk to techs all day long but can't hold a conversation that isn't related to my job. Sometimes I think it is because I don't have anything to say other times because I have too much on my mind. Who knows....break fix conversations are easy for me though.
     
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    I saw that episode, too, I believe. Did it have that big black guy with the awful stuttering?

    Regardless whether it was the same show or not, the gist of the story was how revolutionary the device was for stutterers. I had a friend in college who stuttered very badly, but the guy on this show honestly could not talk, but was very intelligent. As soon as he put the earpiece in, he was reading aloud and talking very eloquently.

    The device works by delaying what your ear hears from your mouth. It is just like a millisecond delay, but that is all the brain needs to overcome the stuttering. I think that stuttering is a response to hearing yourself talk.

    Have you tried reading aloud but not allowing the sounds to escape? Basically, can you read and move your lips and not talk? Do you stutter then?


    I'll see if I can find out some more information about that device.
     
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    It is worth going to a specialist to see if/how they can help. As a child there are many factors that might interfere with usefulness of therapy. As a motivated adult your chances are probably better.

    "I am in the genius IQ range" - 140+ IQ? Really?
     
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    I sometimes have multiple thoughts going through my head while talking to people and it is kinda distracting. I can't talk in a linear fashion easily and sometimes mix words that I am going to say in advance, even in the next sentence. Maybe this is because I am thinking too fast or because I speak and learned a few languages but the worst part is it gives me the impression that people think that I don't know what I'm saying.
    Before I read the the rest of posts I was thinking about singing lessons or a least a karaoke machine. This allows you to practice particular words which you consider difficult to enunciate.
    The best part of any problem is that it allows you to develop other facets of your thought process. For example, I developed very good peripheral senses such as vision and hearing. I can be talking to you and still be very attentive to the surrounding environment. So therefore, I can never see myself getting hit by a car even while walking on the sidewalk. I love playing carnage video games and do multi-tasking very easily. Thinking linearly with definitive decisions sometimes has it's disadvantages, it can be a distraction for creativity.
     
  20. 72FJ40LandCruiser

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    I think you guys have talked me into looking for a specialist. On the IQ, I was tested when I was probably around 9 years old (11 years ago), so I don't know if that still means anything. I feel like I've gotten dumber! When I took the test, they had some kind of psychologist (I think it was, hell I was in grade school) administer the test, and they didn't give a numerical number to my IQ. I remember there being superior and genius ranges but I can't remember the others. I remember the test being very long and was more about thought processes than "what's 3 to the 12th power times 8 to the 13th power" and what not. Nobody ever told me then why I was taking the test, or what it meant. The extended learning teachers wanted to skip me 5th grade but the principal thought it would cause too many problems with other students. After the test I was placed in extended learning classes to try to challenge me more. They were a joke. I don't feel like I'm any smarter than anybody else, but just that I learn and pick up things much easier than most. I'm the kid who always slept in math, english, and definitely science only to wake up with 10 minutes left in the period to finish my assignment. I don't think I touched a bit of homework all through high school--no exaggeration. High school teaches more about how to interact socially than it does anything else anymore these days. I guess that gives a little bit of background on me. But yet I still can't even get a simple word out. A lot of times it depends on the context and how the word is being used in the sentence. For instance, sometimes I can say a sentence like "May I speak to Rudy please?" just fine, but if somebody asks me who I was just on the phone with I try to spit it out and get "Ruuuuuuuuudy." Sometimes I can get certain words out and sometimes I can't depending on how I am trying to use it, what tone I use, and what is in front or behind that word. If I speak in a silly tone, I can spit it out. Sometimes if I speak in my normal tone I have a serious problem with it. I honestly do feel like it holds me back, because instead of saying something I may just keep quiet, or when I talk to somebody I may try to use a different sentence to avoid a certain word and the point doesn't get across as well. And I know in my head how I can communicate well, how to word sentences in a more professional manner and how to interact with customers and other employees. I know how to be tactful when I go to talk to somebody about a sensitive issue, but sometimes the way that I have to word my sentences and conversation it doesn't come aross that way. Because of that and my quietness sometimes, I am held back. I've had many people take a look at what I've done so young in my life and tell me that I will be a district manager for this major company at the age of 25. Could I mentally handle it and have the know-how? Hell yes, but I know that I wouldn't be able to communicate well enough to do it. How would you feel if you knew you could almost double your salary if you could just talk better? It bugs the s*** out of me. Sorry for the long posts, but this is the first time since grade school that I have spoke of this and I have a lot of frustration pent up.