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Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by landtoy80, Oct 28, 2003.
This is what I was talking about the oil film on motor parts.
I certainly wouldn't describe that as a film, more like a deposit or varnish. A film best describes something that could be wiped off. In any case it doesn't look well.
Wow. Kurt, is the stuff kinda sticky, or is it like fuel varnish - nearly painted on? Interesting to see the valve cover pattern from the cam gears. Comforting to know they get enough to throw like that. Did you already clean it (valve cover) above the timing chain, or does the chain not move fast enough to throw oil?
The PO used Penns#%t. I dont remember if the whole cover was that way or not.
There was nasty hard black crud under the plate on the valve cover. I hammered it till I could get as much of it out from under there.Nasty!!!
Looks normal to me for a motor with some miles on it. :-\
My 87fj60 with 180k mi was clean inside.
Bet mine's clean as a whistle. Mobil 1 since 3500 miles.
(Kurt - wasn't nearly as fun to post the second time around - heh)
I've been wondering - just how clean is a whistle?
If it is my whistle, it would be nasty
My motor's top end had some oil varnish on it, but not nearly as bad as shown above. It's a real pain to remove.
Mobil-1 won't make the motor immune.
Generally, sythetics help prevent this type of varnishing. Frankly, it is not going to hurt anything, sludge would, but you don't have that problem. If you really want to get rid of it, there is this stuff called Auto-Rx that the guys on Bobistheoilguy.com are gaga over. They say it will get rid of the varnish. Basically it involves running mineral oil for 500 miles with the stuff, changing it out, and going another 1500 miles and chainging the oil out. Me, I won't touch the stuff. If I wanted to clean it out, Redline with its high ester base which cleans pretty well for a few oil changes.
The oil film can be scraped off with a knife. With that info and knowing that the block can't be boiled out. When it comes rebuild time, will I have problems with that crap on the block?
I'll be interested in what others say on this, but those are likely to be solids that have accumulated on parts from chemical reactions and heat over the years. It represents solids accumulated from the passage of thousands of gallons of oil flow over the years. I would be very wary of using a solvent that would dissolve the stuff back into a solution in a short period of time, as it could start moving around in a semi dissolved state and clog smaller orifices (valve train, etc). Once such an orifice is clogged, there would be no more solvent flow through the orifice to continue dissolving it. A catch 22.
In my opinion, it doesn't do any harm except prevent a bit of heat transfer off the parts that the direct contact of oil would otherwise create. It's not in the bearings or contact surfaces like gear teeth, so really it's just the look.
Ya, I wouldn't worry about it until you have to pull the engine for a rebuild. I don't see any harm it could do. doesn't look pretty, but just shine up the top of the valve cover and put it back on.
Wow, when I checked my valves at 100K miles my engine looked like new. I use Mobil 1 5w30. I would switch now to a good synthetic and maybe it will clean it up by the time you need to rebuild.