New LX 570 ... Method NV + K02 sizing inquiry (1 Viewer)

[pwag]

Hi all.

Recently added a new (to me) '15 LX 570 CPO to the 200 family. 26k mi, Nebula Gray on Black, excellent shape. Still can't believe I picked this one up for almost 40% off it's original msrp and only 2.3yrs on the road. Psyched! Will load some pics once I get settled down (just had a baby, time evaporates).

Looking to immediately mount Method Racing 18 x 9 NV 305 (5 x 150 bolt, 25mm offset, 6" spacing) with BFG K02 AT 285/65 R18 (32.5"). Tentatively planning to remove NV outer rim decorative bolts and anodize them anthracite color to tie in better with Nebula Gray for a more refined look. Attached a few pics that show the stock wheel/tire combo.

Link to wheel@Tirerack: Method NV

Does anyone forsee any fitment issues (caliper clearance/liner) on a 570 with this spec? I'm fine with some light inside liner trimming, which I've admittedly never done before.

Any comments welcome, including consideration for trying other wheel combos (including stock wheel with 275/60R20 K02 32.9"). When I can swing the time, plan to visit Slee (I'm local) to see how their 570 sliders are working out and hopefully install.

Thanks! Look forward to taking a more active role in the forum, instead of just long-time lurker

 

[TeCKis300]

That's a great looking wheel. If there's one knock against it, is that its offset is on the aggressive end. Ideal offset is in the 35-50mm range.

For the size tires you're considering, it'll all still work great. With only minor massaging of the wheel wells needed. Lookup my posts and you'll find some LX570 specific tips.

If the wheel's style is what you want, then go for it. I personally do enjoy the stock 20" wheels, being OEM quality and such. 20" isn't a big deal when going 33's or larger, as you still get lots and lots of sidewall. It keeps some balance of on road performance with (relatively) sharper steering. I know everyone does 275/285s, but have you considered 305s? 305/55/20s fit great on the OEM wheel, and has the benefit that the wheel protected by the tire sidewall. Lookup my posts. This has to be paired with a spacer as the stock wheels have 60mm offset and clearance to the upper arm is an issue.

Congrats on the new purchase, and welcome to the fold!

 

[mtnracer]

We've had 305-50-20s on our LX for the past 18 months and never liked the ride. Truck tracked terribly, wallowed, and steering was very heavy. Finally had enough and going back to OEM 285-50-20. I think 305s are just too wide on an LX. Maybe okay on a lifted LC?

 

[sickspeed]

Sounds like it will be a sharp lookin LX.

I just put Method Double Standards in 18x9 et25 with 285-65-18 Wild Peaks on my LC on Friday and I have some pretty bad rubbing so I will be installing the OEM front strut spacer and removing the mud flaps for now. My truck is probably due for new front shocks anyway and your newer LX can probably fit the 285-65-18s without rubbing and you can always just use the AHC to raise it up.

 

[TeCKis300]

We've had 305-50-20s on our LX for the past 18 months and never liked the ride. Truck tracked terribly, wallowed, and steering was very heavy. Finally had enough and going back to OEM 285-50-20. I think 305s are just too wide on an LX. Maybe okay on a lifted LC?

That's interesting. Other than the loss of power and brake torque with the overall diameter change, I can't say I've noticed those observations. My LX tracks ahead as resolutely as it ever has. I'm pretty sensitive to this too as I do dabble in road course and track activities, in my other cars that is.

Digging deeper, I'm curious what spacers you used? And tires?

Wider tires can "tramline", i.e. following grooves and ruts in the roadway. But this also can be an issue of offset which is why I ask about the spacers? Certain tread designs are more prone to this too.

 

[pwag]

Much appreciate all the input everyone. It's been very helpful.

TeCK, yes the aggressive offset has been a concern. From what I've gathered, it's at a trial and error threshold. I'm thinking maybe I have them mount NV + K02 front & back on one side of vehicle, confirm it sits well and the asthetic line works, then plunge further to work out any wheel well manipulation. Once mounted, I'm assuming one can no longer return rims. Tx for links.

I plan to run Hakka LT2 or Blizzak DMV2 on a 2nd set of Method NV 18" rim (if they work out) or 20" stock for winter. Storm hunt very frequently throughout the West for skiing, AT's don't cut it.

 

[Bomar]

I would go a narrower tire. Also look at Icon wheels they just made some with correct offset.

 

[SWUtah]

Would 285/55/20 LTX LT2's they are "E" load range be ok on a 2015 LX570 stock 20" wheels?

 

[Bomar]

Yes but you don't need an E and will firm up the ride. Look for a non 10 ply tire

 

[TeCKis300]

E tires here, largely because I tow. But I'll add that the added stiffness thankfully didn't cause quite the impact that I was expecting.

I'll give the nod to AHC for keeping the ride plush. Also consider that the stock LX570 rides on relatively rubber band tires with the 20" wheels, and an E rated oversized tire is not that much stiffer. If anything, the added rubber added some compliance. But there's slightly more "grittiness" with the AT tread, so it's not as smooth as highway tread tires. But compliance wise, not bad at all.

 

[SWUtah]

My LX weighed 6000lbs D/E rated tire's should be no big deal when it comes to ride quality. Now if your ride weighes between 4000-5000 it might make a differences??

 

[pwag]

Well, took a directional change these last few days. After seeing the up-close quality of these $200-$250 aftermarket rims, including the NV's going on a F150, I walked away from the idea. They frankly look cheap, esp when going on a LC/LX. Perhaps I'm slow to the party, but a good # of them look like mall cruiser type grade when you get up close.

Decided to stick with OEM 20" LX wheel & go back to what I've used here in Rockies for a decade+ on a 100 and '07 4Runner Sport... LTX M/S line. With clearance, they were more than enough to get me onsite to bag over 40 14ers in summer + all my preferred mtb sites in Fruita/Moab. Hakka & Blizzak DM the easy choice for storm chasing up & down the spine from NM to interior BC. I don't 4wheel as a hobby, not exactly sure why I've been getting all jazzed for an AT setup. Excitement of new truck perhaps & the look so many want but don't really need? At this point, when an AT requirement presents itself, will keep it simple: OEM TRD Forged 17" RW (powder coat entire wheel matte black) + K02 285/70 R17 + Slee sliders.

Went ahead and mounted LTX M/S Defender P275/60 R20 (33"). Wanted the extra bit of sidewall for more psi options and compliance on rougher trail heads. Zero rubbing, excellent comfortable & quiet drive. Fills out the wheel well, with a more balanced look like a stock 13-15 LC on it's 18" w/60s. Still can't believe Lexus put a 50 on this truck, sigh.

Snapped a few quick pics today before heading home, @ N height. 36 psi.

Have 275/60 R20 Blizzak DM-V2 (33") on order.

 

[SWUtah]

These should also look great on my 2015, thanks for the info. So it looks like the LX570 can handle a 33" tire. Should also be fine with the 275/60/20 LTX AT2's.

 

[pwag]

These should also look great on my 2015, thanks for the info. So it looks like the LX570 can handle a 33" tire. Should also be fine with the 275/60/20 LTX AT2's.

Yes, no rub with regards to daily driving and articulating truck back and forth over parking lot rock gardens at full lock & N setting. Only prelim tests, but so far so good. If there's going to be even a light rub in Hi setting on rough terrain, I'd be quite surprised given current gaps. I suspect it's due to width and offset of OEM wheel. Assuming its position was designed for that wheel well for optimal articulation and clearance?

Yes, I'd imagine LTX AT2's should work since those extra sidewall knobs are pretty tight to rubber. Are you sure you need that tire though? I've been told by a few it's very close to M/S performance when comparing M/S vs to a true AT tire. If you experience a decent amount of mud that doesn't require a true AT/MT tire, probably a good in-between option over the M/S. But I literally have gone everywhere on M/S's in CO, including all the Ouray-Tride basin routes, dunes, and some of the more roughed out remote 13er/14er trailheads. They are sticky rubber. Sure, had to rely more on downhill/crawl/lo-4 features when it got sloppy/wet/excess scree, but that's what it's there for in those few spare moments. I don't know about you, but I'm 95+% highway getting to my playgrounds. Plus if you plan on towing alot, the M/S Defender comes in a LT265/60 R20 @ 32.5". AT2 is rather limited in this sizing aspect if I recall. Gives you the 60 profile for more psi adjust-ability and some better compliance on the rougher stuff. LT on a 50-55 profile I'd imagine is a very rough ride. Most tire shops let you swap out within 30 days, so it cant hurt to try both. LMK how it goes.

Here is a CO taco guy running some M/S fwiw (oops @ the rolled ride below)... Michelin LTX A/T2 or LTX M/S2

I suspect alot of folks over-tire out here for 3-season, and fall for the great rugged looks. I find myself in that category, but eventually reign myself back into the realm of practicality/reality. Where it seems SO MANY under-tire is for winter...CO folks esp drive me nuts with all their ice-skate M/T's & weak all-seasons.

 

[SWUtah]

I'll probably be better off with the 275/60/20 defender mud and snow its only $240 apiece at discount tire

 

[SWUtah]

I'll probably be better off with the 275/55/20 defender mud and snow its only $200 apiece at discount tire

But I have to wear these Dunflops that came on it down first. But the more I look at your pic's the 60's look more balanced.

 

[SWUtah]

I think we have twin's. Your 60's look better then the 285/50/20's that come from the factory

 

[mtnracer]

That's interesting. Other than the loss of power and brake torque with the overall diameter change, I can't say I've noticed those observations. My LX tracks ahead as resolutely as it ever has. I'm pretty sensitive to this too as I do dabble in road course and track activities, in my other cars that is.

Digging deeper, I'm curious what spacers you used? And tires?

Wider tires can "tramline", i.e. following grooves and ruts in the roadway. But this also can be an issue of offset which is why I ask about the spacers? Certain tread designs are more prone to this too.

We had the Michelin Latitude Tour HP in 305-50-20 mounted on OEM 2013 LX570 wheels without spacers. There were no balance issues but steering was much slower and heavier and the truck felt even more like a boat (than usual - LOL).

I just went back to a new set of Michelins in 285-50-20 and I love it. Feels like a different truck. The heaviness is gone - back to a (speed) boat.

For me, if I wanted bigger tires on the 20" OEM wheels, I would go 275-55-20 (32") or 275-60-20 (33") because there are tons of choices in those sizes. I saw there are options like 285-55-20 and 295-55-20 but they are expensive and selection is limited.

I don't doubt that others might have different experiences but I can say that the difference for me was night and day.

 

[SWUtah]

I think when the time comes I'm gonna go with the 275/60/20's Michelin M/S. My off-road driving is limited to gravel driveways and parking lots

 

[pwag]

I think when the time comes I'm gonna go with the 275/60/20's Michelin M/S. My off-road driving is limited to gravel driveways and parking lots

It's more than you need, you will love this spec. Super smooth and quiet on our rough Denver streets. The pics I took don't do it justice...in person, car looks so balanced. After getting info from gaijn and Michelin direct, I'm now running them @ 33psi. They only require 29 psi cold (Michelin) to get load rating met. I may go 30 with a TPMS light removal mod (if its been done).