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NEED HELP!!! Cruiser on last leg

Discussion in '60-Series Wagons' started by cruiserhunter, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. cruiserhunter

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    I just got this silver fj60 from a Guy in Houston. HE said it had a new tranny and the air conditoiner "Blew Cold" (he is not returning my calls). THe day after I got it the A/C stopped working and today I think the clutch is going out. I floor her and the rpms rise but my I accelerate very little and there is this white smoke that stinks. I know i'm not loosing oil. Aside from my obvious sadness and exterme lack of funds(she is my daily and I saved very long and looked very hard for her) I must fix my girl. THe problem with putting in a new clutch is that I have no idea what kind of tranny he put in. I know it is not the four speed that the truck originally came with because it has five speeds. I need to know what trannies he could have put in. Also, I need to know where I can get a clutch for cheap. Oh.. if you think it is something else please let me know. I welcome any input that will get my girl runnin. Thanks.


    Patrick


    p.s. all my spray washers(windsheild, headlights and rear window) are not spraying. I push the button, but nothing happens. The resivours are full and none of my fuses are out. Any Ideas?
     
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    Stinky white smoke? Like kinda sweet stinky? Maybe head gasket blown.
     
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    First thing to do is see if the clutch is adjusted correctly and bled. Usually head gasket issues will be quick overgeating motor and chocolate milk lookin oil.
     
  4. cruiserhunter

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    THe reason I think it is the tranny is that I can put on the gas and my rpms will increase significantly with little if any speed or acceleration. If it is a gasket leak why would I rev soo high with soo little power output? I am also not loosing any oil and the smoke seems to be coming from the tranny. How do I bleed and adjust my tranny? Is it super difficult? Also, is there a way to determine the type of tranny I have? I really appreciate the help and info. THanks


    Patrick
     
  5. 60wag

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    The white smoke that stinks, does it smell like antifeeze or overheated brakes? Hopefully overheated brakes. Does the clutch pedal have any freeplay at the top of stroke? You should have an inch or two of pedal movement before it becomes harder to push down. The freeplay is what assures that the clutch is fully engaged to the flywheel. As for the tranny, there are only two likely options. Its either a Toyota H55 or a GM NV4500. If its a Toy tranny, it will be bolted directly to the flywheel housing. If its a GM there should be an adapter between the tranny and the flywheel housing - I think. The Toy tranny should be easy to move the shift lever through the gear pattern. The GM will be difficult to find the gears and the shift lever will feel like its bending when it won't go into gear.
     
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    The smoke does not smell like antifreeze and it is not coming from the brakes. last night when I pulled in the smoke was coming from the rear of the engine bay. THere is virtually no play with the clutch pedal. To disengage my clutch all I have to do is push down an inch or two and the clutch is out. Is this my problem and how do I fix it? I tried to dajust the cltuch play, but when I got under the truck I saw what I think are pressure lines running into the same place as the thing that moves when I push in the clutch. Also, which of these trannies is a 5 speed? IF both are I will go and try and see if I can find or not find an adapter. 60wag thanks for your help

    Patrick
     
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    does it have a toyota inline 6 cly engine?
    the 5spd could and problably is a toyota tranny.
     
  8. cruiser_guy

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    Sounds like at least two problems, blown head gasket (which you'll want to fix NOW) and a misadjusted worn clutch (which you'll also need to fix now)!

    If your tranny looks like a Toyota 4 speed but has five gears it's still a Toyota and takes the same clutch as the 4 speed.

    Is the engine oil at all discolored? Are you losing coolant/antifreeze? If the oil is discolored you've likely got a blown head gasket. If you're losing antifreeze/coolant you've either got a blown head gasket or a cracked head. If you decide to replace the head gasket get the head checked for cracks so you KNOW you're installing a good head. Follow the shop manual for installing and removing the head. You MUST loosen and tighten the bolts in the correct sequence and slowly loosen/tighten them in several passes.

    Sounds like the PO knew what he was selling.
     
  9. 60wag

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    Sounds like the major problem is the clutch adjustement. On pre 85FJ60's both the master rod attached to the clutch pedal and the pushrod on the slave cylinder are adjustable. On later 60s, the slave cyl was not adjustable. Look under the dash where the rod is connected to the clutch pedal. You should see the rod with a locknut and clevis with a pin through it. Loosen the lock nut and thread the rod further into the clevis bracket making the rod length shorter. Hopefully you have engough room to gain a least an inch of freeplay in the pedal. If there isn't enough adjustment in the master rod, check the slave cyl underneath. There should be a helper spring holding the clutch release arm against the slave cyl. Pop the spring off and shorten the slave rod until there is a quarter inch of space between the the rod end and the release arm. Tighten everything up, pu the spring on and test the clutch. It should release around mid stroke - closer to the floor than to the top of stroke.
     
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    FWIW pretty sure there is no spring on 81+ 40 or 60.

    [quote author=60wag link=board=1;threadid=12643;start=msg116304#msg116304 date=1078591921]
    Sounds like the major problem is the clutch adjustement. On pre 85FJ60's both the master rod attached to the clutch pedal and the pushrod on the slave cylinder are adjustable. On later 60s, the slave cyl was not adjustable. Look under the dash where the rod is connected to the clutch pedal. You should see the rod with a locknut and clevis with a pin through it. Loosen the lock nut and thread the rod further into the clevis bracket making the rod length shorter. Hopefully you have engough room to gain a least an inch of freeplay in the pedal. If there isn't enough adjustment in the master rod, check the slave cyl underneath. There should be a helper spring holding the clutch release arm against the slave cyl. Pop the spring off and shorten the slave rod until there is a quarter inch of space between the the rod end and the release arm. Tighten everything up, pu the spring on and test the clutch. It should release around mid stroke - closer to the floor than to the top of stroke.
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    White "smoke" is water, to me. I can't imagine how you could get white smoke out of a transmission, unless someone purposely put water in your tranny. Just can't see that happening.
     
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    I'd go kill the PO and make sure the emergencey brake is off. Then I'd go kill the PO again to make sure he was dead; then I'd marry his daughter.

    that sucks man; hope the tips that these guys give you help you out. Did you get it from Vintage?
     
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    How long ago did you buy this thing? Was it ebay or in person? From a dealer or what? Sounds like you got dicked, it sucks, learn from it. Check out any course of action legally you may have if the facts are as they appear. Never let your desire to own something overcome the reality of what you're looking to buy.
     
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    It's an 86. Is there a way to adjust the clutch? Yup, I got dicked. It seemed like such a good deal and after taking to him repeatedly I thought I was getting a really well maintaned truck..... THe body is presitine as is the interior. I got it from a private seller in houston, TX. I just started her up and I am getting no smoke... I hope a good sign.. still keepin my fingers crossed. I'm think I'm going to drive it to a local Land cruiser specialist to get her tranny checked if i can;t do it my self. ANy clutch adjustment/ maintence you can instruct me on would save me prescious money ( need it for the a/c and wipers) THanks everyone

    Patrick


    p.s. What kind of legal action is there if any. THere is no contract of sale, but I do have an e-mail where he states that the a/c is working properly. any ideas?
     
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    If you are in Texas as well you could pursue him based on the representations that he made (verbal and written) regarding the condition of the truck, provided that you can show that it does not meet these representations.

    Take it to a mechanic for a full inspection (as you should have done prior to buying) and get a written report. Sorry for your trouble - caveat emptor.

    Mike S
     
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    Gees... Just get the clutch adjusted before you jump to legal pursuit. If you have an H55, a rust free body, and a clean interior, I wouldn't complain. How much did you pay for it? I know I shouldn't ask, but if you got a screamin deal, it matters. Get some Toyota shop manuals and learn all about your truck.
     
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    Yeah, everything is fixable. If you got a screaming deal (yeah, we wanna know numbers), and the body is in great shape, I'd just count my blessings and leave the lawyers out of it. They'll end up with more than your screaming deal was worth, anyway.
     
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    I payed 6750. I thought it was a deal. Here is the add:

    86' Silver FJ60. exterior and interior (gray) good shape with no rust. Texas truck. Recently replaced 4spd for a brand new Toyota 5spd manual. 4" Safari Lift with Old Man Emu shocks and steering stabilizer. BFG 33" tires on factory rims. New Sony CD and speakers. Front and rear custom bumpers with fog lights. 160K miles. $8800.00.

    the link is:
    http://www.cruiserland.com/forsale/fj60.htm
    it is near the bottom

    The smoke is none exsistent, but I can feel the clutch slipping. I am putting her in tomorrow mourning to get all the problems diagnosed. I need to know what type of clutch I should buy. I need the most reliable clutch for the price. I am broke and only getting more broke. Also, what all is involved in an AC conversion. WHat parts are needed and cost. thanks again everyone
     
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    The best clutch for you is a Toyota stock OEM part - new from the dealer. The work good and last a long time. No troubles with OEM parts.

    Can't answer on the A/C... and welcome to Landcruisers Anonymous :D

    Mike S
     
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    What about center force clutch...is it stonger/better? 1, 2 or 3??? Is there one that fits h55? How much does the OEM clutch cost and what are the differences between the center force and oem clutch?
    Thanks