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Forgot about Brian running them on his FJC he seemed happy with the performance at the cruiser crawl. I'll shoot him a link to the thread and he can tell you himself.

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I had a set of Yoko Geolander AT's on my Dodge Ram. They wore very well. Good in the snow. I'd consider buying again if looking for an AT.

Problem I see with the Yoko MT's is the directional thing. Much harder to keep the set wearing evenly when you can only rotate front to back. Can't rotate in a spare, well you can but only on one side unless you remount? Directionals are just a PITA.
 
This is Brian, with the FJC up above. I have had the Yoko M/Ts since last July in the stock 265/70/17 size, which is, I think about 31.5". I've put about 8000 miles on them, and they seem to be wearing very well. They still look brand new to me.

On road, they ride better than the stock Bridgestone dueler ATs, and are not loud at all, compared to the 33" BFG MTs on my 40. Offroad, I have taken them on 3 trips, once to the SCC in Alabama where it was dry and dusty with rocks, and two trips to Hammond, LA where it was very muddy with some sand. I haven't had any problems with traction on any of the rides.

I haven't pulled the BFG 33s off of the 40 (recently bought it), so I cannot compare the weight. The Yokohamas don't seem to heavy though. I paid $1160 for a set of 5, mounted and balanced, at a Allied Tire in Lafayette, LA. They are balanced fine, no weights on the outside of the rim, and no shaking in the steering wheel. This did NOT require a "Road Force" type of balancing.

I popped a bead on my left rear last month and had to go about 20 yards on the trail before I could stop to reseat it. It went back on fine, and I drove to Houston a week later with no problems.

The directional tire is my only complaint, but I rotated front to back at 6k miles and they are not looking bad.
 
I knew some people who ran the Yokos a few years ago. I've never seen anybody buy them twice. I haven't heard anything awful about them, just never heard that they were really good at anything.

It does mean something when a tire is not widely adopted. The Yoko is an old tire design, these have been around for years.

I assume your interest in them is cost? I'd probably get the Nitto in a 315 if I was heading that way over the Yoko and gain the road bias and tread life.
 
...throw in my 2 for (against?) TrXus.

Had them on my '94 minitruck.

- Very difficult to keep balanced, always had an annoying vibration at around 65 ~ 68 mph.
- Wore unexpectedly fast for such a light vehicle. The rear wore the same as the front so it wasn't an alignment issue. I think I only got 20K on them but I was tired of their vibrations, so they weren't completely worn out but to the point that I couldn't have sold them to anybody.

Wouldn't do TrXus again.

I really like the looks of the Geolander but I'm mainly a BFG'er.
Directional isn't a big issue for me, I'm too lazy and really no need to rotate except front to back anyway :)

Dan.
 
I was reading reviews on the TrXus M/T and it looks like a high rate of sidewall blowouts.

This is one reason why I always lean towards BFG, the tripple sidewall and all that.
 
I like my Toyos MT but not a true Mud tire .. ( not at least down here ) ..

I would place more mud trust in a BFG MT KM ( not yet have the chance to try KM2 ) but the best MT that I ever try ( include in the list BFG. Bridgetone, baja Claw, MTR, Firestone Destination and Toyos ) are the General Grabber MT ..

Certanly wear on the HW .. but amazing traction on heavy mud ..

P.S. forget .. bottom note: The baja claws are the worse expensive tire that I ever own .. not good at all @ mud .. absolutely no performance in reverse, and lowdness ( lot's of vibrations ) on road.
 
If you are worried about the sidewall, buy a Swamper. I have BFG mts on my 40 and the sidewall is significantly weaker than a SS. Of course, from your description, you don't do the type of wheeling that I do.
 
Criuserdan had a set of Dunlop Mud Rovers on his wife's rig. He said thatt they're cheap, but great tires. I don't question the shaman...

...my MTRs chuncked pretty bad at CM08.

I like the idea of the Trxxus.
 
I was reading reviews on the TrXus M/T and it looks like a high rate of sidewall blowouts.

This is one reason why I always lean towards BFG, the tripple sidewall and all that.

I've read that trxus had some sidewall failures early on in production, but haven't ever heard of anybody in person, not that this means anything.

Those highway failures would be a manufacturing issues, not a sidewall strength issue, and I don't blame anybody for casting a wary eye in Interco's direction on that subject, although Denman manufacturers the Trxus MT now.

As for BFG 3 ply, that's marketing stuff in terms of offroad durability.

You are sounding more and more like a candidate for the Toyo MT, and I will say that I really like the look of the Toyo in a 13.5" wide tire on the 80. Does increase the chance of rubbing, but that tire looks about perfect on an 80 if that matters to you.

I dunno, though, in terms of liking to be different, if I didn't have to deal with a lot of snow and icy hardpack, I'd want to try the KM2 to see how it does, because shockingly for BFG, this tire is innovative. Although I have to say those tires in a 315 just plain look smaller than my 2 year old trxus, and that bothers me because I hate having big tires look kind of small on my rig :hillbilly:
 
Swampers of any model are not HWY friendly or wear friendly tires don't let them tell you different not to mention about twice the weight of a radial MT and the reason I switched years ago. They are also very hard on the frontend and tough to keep a good alignment or balanced. For a trail only rig they have just the right tire for your needs wether its mud, rock, trail and will last many years on a trail rig. I hate to put down a locally made product but thats just the honest truth. I've had several sets over the years they were founded, tested and produced right down the road in Rayne, LA. The TSL SX were my favorite 35x15.50 tough as nails and great traction but not road friendly.
 
Swampers of any model are not HWY friendly or wear friendly tires don't let them tell you different not to mention about twice the weight of a radial MT and the reason I switched years ago. They are also very hard on the frontend and tough to keep a good alignment or balanced. For a trail only rig they have just the right tire for your needs wether its mud, rock, trail and will last many years on a trail rig. I hate to put down a locally made product but thats just the honest truth. I've had several sets over the years they were founded, tested and produced right down the road in Rayne, LA. The TSL SX were my favorite 35x15.50 tough as nails and great traction but not road friendly.


More of my .02


I daily drive my 80 with the TrXus (no weight, no problem) and have no issues with them on the highway at highway speeds. In a previous thread I found people were getting 30,000 miles out of them no problem. Those two things considered alone were enough to convince me to try them out and then after I got them and found out how well they performed off road I was convinced that for OREGON Trails where we can be in deep sand, crawl on rocks and deep snow all in a matter of a couple of hours they were the tire for ME. The bottom line is that it is personal preference. I chose the tire I chose because of the reviews I found online, from this forum, cost and I am only planning on running them for about a year before I step up to 37's. Creeper-Sleeper is a good friend of mine who has the Toyo's and for Oregon and the wheeling he does, they suck and he hates them, but the same rig with those tires in other parts of the country they are perfect. Remember there is more to consider in this decision than just price, looks, and ratings.

Sorry for my rant I hope this helps someone.
 
The more I look into reviews, the Hankooks are looking fairly sweet.

:hmm:

Better plan on rotating at every oil change. The hankooks that I am familiar with (an AT version) wear uneven as hell.
 

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